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  • Word from Devon is there were gearbox issues identified during trials. Lips tightly shut as to how serious.
    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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    • Any further update as to the state of play with Shaw?

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      • Last week of this month, when there is enough water under the hull. Spring tides from 23rd on. Tidal range a big issue. Again.
        For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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        • Originally posted by na grohmit� View Post
          Last week of this month, when there is enough water under the hull. Spring tides from 23rd on. Tidal range a big issue. Again.
          So the gearbox issues have been sorted? Or was it not as bad as it could have been?

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          • Sorted. Thats a good word.
            For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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            • As an aside the Torridge Pilot, Mr Roger Hoad retired last week.
              Well he retired earlier this year, but his replacement, Paul Brown was involved in an accident shortly after taking over, and was unable to take up his duty until now.
              For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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              • Originally posted by Sparky42 View Post
                Any further update as to the state of play with Shaw?
                I presume when they can float the boat and she is good to go!! These four ships at over 2000 tonnes are bigger than most corvettes but have a narrow field of Naval capability. Reading John Dunbar, he has recommended the upgrading of the RN Batch 2 OPV's at £110m for a five ship improved capability. Starting with UAV's to improve surveillance range, add SIGINT and ELINT capability , add anti-submarine surveillance, act as mother ships to unmanned sub-hunting technology, consider a towed array , and improve self defence capability by adding 2 x 25mm guns and an aft facing CIWS , and finally a SEA GNAT soft kill decoy system. He notes that OPV's deployed in the Mediterranean Sea on Intelligence missions can expect to face a range of attacks from low to mid-level intensity, including air attacks. I hope we are not depending exclusively on Holy Water and Miraculous Medals.

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                • https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/iris...irish-13280721 Report from the mirror. Maybe they might transfer the 76mm to Shaw when it arrives?

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                  • Originally posted by pilatus View Post
                    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/iris...irish-13280721 Report from the mirror. Maybe they might transfer the 76mm to Shaw when it arrives?
                    I'm just getting a 404 for that link? But unless we've got a new 76mm in the Shaw's mount will have to come from somewhere?

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                    • Page not found. What did it say?
                      For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                      • From looking through Google, I think it's basically that one of the Peacocks can't sail due to lack of crew.

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                        • Link worked for me. As Sparky 42 said, no crew available, P41 tied up indefinitely.

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                          • Disgraceful way to treat the members of the Defence forces. Unfortunately it is the same throughout the rest of the public services. THe most recent pay deal in around 4% rise over 3 years just showed how little Fine Gael thinks in regard to public Service.

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                            • [QUOTE=ibenji;462924]Disgraceful way to treat the members of the Defence forces. Unfortunately it is the same throughout the rest of the public services. THe most recent pay deal in around 4% rise over 3 years just showed how little Fine Gael thinks in regard to public Service.[/QUOTE

                              Well we merry pensioners have had no actual pay rise approaching a decade , but did have a 10% cut and USC since 2011. We got back some FEMPI in two small tranches but are still being fleeced 5% with a reduced level of USC. We need to get back all FEMPI plus a decent pay rise. In the mean time Dail Salaries continue to increase while the landlords in the Dail are also benefiting from extortionate rents and building up new degrees of poverty and homelessness. Pork Barrel politics for the untouchables.

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                              • Link working now

                                Thing is NS manning levels were even bad in the good times

                                Things like the following don’t help:
                                - insufficient establishment for 9 ship navy
                                - lack of Accomodiation ashore so crews have to sleep on the ships when tied up
                                - the 2 year shore rotation including time at sea
                                - Op PONTUS / SOPHIA meaning longer patrols (I’d say there are positives for morale as well)
                                - strength not meeting establishment

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