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  • Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
    The RNLI is 100% funded from charitable donations. It recieves NO state funding as a matter of policy. (If it was offerred, they wouldnt take it).
    By going it alone its independance is preserved,indirectly it gets state aid as a reg charity ie no rates on buildings,lower planning fees,gets to use red diesel and has a unique clawback on petrol duty with rev comm nad is exempt from having to gear up its craft to the standard required of passenger boats.

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    • Has anyone gone over to the yard yet for the builds .

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      • When will the NS be issuing an RFT for the UAVs to be based on the OPV? (How's that for an alphabet soup!)

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        • Originally posted by easyrider View Post
          When will the NS be issuing an RFT for the UAVs to be based on the OPV? (How's that for an alphabet soup!)
          See the UAV thread.


          Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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          • Originally posted by A/TEL View Post
            From reports, Steel cut in May 2012, sea trials late 2013, delivery early 2014 (possibly earlier if completed) Niamh was delivered ahead of schedule.
            On a google picked up traffic that the cheif/head designer in Babcock for the new OPV is a Cody Lyster,anyone know anything about his other designs/commissions.

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              STX Marine was recently awarded the contract by Babcock UK subsidiary, Devonport Naval Dockyard, to design the next generation Offshore Patrol Vessel for the Irish Naval Service (INS). The new OPV will be a lengthened version of the current STXM PV80 design of which two vessels, L.E. Roisin and L.E. Niamh were delivered by Appledore Shipbuilding in 2000 and 2001.

              The tender process for the new vessels began in 2008 and it was late summer of this year that Babcock reached agreement with the Irish Defence Department to deliver two new vessels to enhance the INS fleet. The success of the existing vessels, and in particular the high quality of construction from Appledore Shipyard, were clearly an influencing factor in selecting Babcock and STXM for the contract. The new PV90 vessels will maintain the overall configuration of the PV80 but will be increased in length by more than 10 metres and have an additional 0.60m in depth to provide greater operational capability for the rough waters patrolled by the INS.

              The maximum speed of the vessels will be increased to 23 knots and the addition of a power input on each gearbox will permit more efficient low speed operation without having to run the main propulsion system at very low power levels. STXM will provide the Classification Design of the vessel and looks forward to continuing the excellent relationship with Appledore Shipbuilders from the previous contract in the late 1990’s.
              Last edited by DeV; 24 November 2011, 21:48.

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              • Dev,above prev posted on thread @ post 1536@220111,anything else come up on your search.

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                • I was told the first steel for the new vessel was cut today. Great news. Have seen final plans, great design. Keel will be laid next may-ish. Really looking forward too 18-20 mths time and the new vessel alongside the quaywall.

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                  • Is the new ship an equal replacement for one of the existing ships in the Irish navy ? And the new ship looks like the last commissioned PV ?

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                    • Originally posted by Toolbox View Post
                      I was told the first steel for the new vessel was cut today. Great news. Have seen final plans, great design. Keel will be laid next may-ish. Really looking forward too 18-20 mths time and the new vessel alongside the quaywall.
                      Great news. Must find excuses to take holiday in devon the year after next...

                      Originally posted by andy View Post
                      Is the new ship an equal replacement for one of the existing ships in the Irish navy ? And the new ship looks like the last commissioned PV ?
                      Its an improvement on the P50 design, of Roisin and Niamh. Longer, with many other improvements, based on past experience. It will replace the older P21 types, which are overdue retirement.


                      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                      • Royal Thai Navy Holds Launching Ceremony for OPV



                        A new Offshore Patrol Vessel, designed by BAE Systems, being built by the Royal Thai Navy has been launched at a ceremony at the Mahidol Adulyadej Naval Dockyard. HRH Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn launched HTMS Krabi on Friday. The launching comes just 15 months after the vessel’s keel laying ceremony in August 2010.

                        Mick Ord, Managing Director of BAE Systems’ Surface Ships business, said: “This is a highly capable and versatile ship which provides an effective and affordable solution to naval capability requirements. The vessel’s launch is a pivotal moment in the programme and effectively demonstrates the success of the innovative partnership we have developed with Bangkok Dock.”

                        Outfitting will continue on the vessel when she returns to dry dock in early December. With a maximum speed of 23 knots and a flight deck large enough to accommodate a Super Lynx helicopter, the Offshore Patrol Vessel will be primarily used by the Royal Thai Navy for Economic Exclusion Zone roles, including routine patrols and border controls. It will also undertake fishery protection tasks and disaster relief, as well as protection of natural resources in the Gulf of Thailand and the Andaman Sea.

                        A new Offshore Patrol Vessel, designed by BAE Systems, being built by the Royal Thai Navy has been launched at a ceremony at the Mahidol Adulyadej Naval Dockyard. HRH Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn launched HTMS Krabi on Friday. The launching comes just 15 months after the vessel’s keel laying ceremony in August 2010. Mick Ord, Managing Director of […]

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                        • For those of you tired of hearing Goldie banging on about the seas getting rougher of the West Coast:

                          http://www.met.ie/news/display.asp?ID=139

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                          • That wave is larger in height than the length of some ships suggested by certain individuals on IMO.


                            Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                            • Currently a steady 11m: http://www.met.ie/latest/buoy.asp

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                              • Deputy Pearse Doherty

                                asked the Minister for Defence
                                the total cost for the provision of two new off shore patrol vessels for the Naval Service. [38662/11]

                                Deputy Paul Kehoe: The contract price for the provision of two new offshore patrol vessels for the Naval Service is €99 million, exclusive of VAT, and subject to contract terms and final agreed costs. In addition, the cost of providing a weapons system for the ships, similar to the systems on LE Roisin and LE Niamh, will be €7.8 million, exclusive of VAT. The contract for the two ships was placed with Babcock Marine UK in October 2010. Payments on the contract are scheduled over a period of eight years, 2010-17, and are being funded from within the annual defence budget.


                                A total of €38.7 million has been paid over to date on the contract, including VAT payments to the Revenue Commissioners. The next stage payment of €12 million is scheduled before the end of March 2012 with an accompanying VAT liability of €2.7 million falling payable.


                                Preparations for the construction of the ships have commenced in Appledore, UK, and the first cutting of steel took place in November. The first ship is scheduled for delivery in early 2014. The second ship will follow one year later. I am advised that the production schedule is on time and in accordance with the contract and that to date there are no difficulties foreseen.


                                The acquisition of these modern new vessels is a priority for the Defence Forces. The Deputy should note that Naval Service vessels are replaced when they have come to the end of their useful life, which is normally around 30 years. These acquisitions, combined with a continuous process of refurbishment and repair, will ensure that the operational capability of the Naval Service is maintained at a satisfactory level in the coming years.

                                Deputy Jonathan O’Brien:

                                The two new ships are set to replace the LE Roisin and the LE Niamh. The first one is due in early 2014. Are there any other outstanding requests from the navy for equipment which we are unable to meet because of the new economic situation in which we find ourselves?

                                Deputy Paul Kehoe:

                                I am not aware of any outstanding equipment for which the Naval Service is waiting. I am not sure if the Minister, Deputy Shatter, has been made aware of any such request. I can assure the Deputy that the two new ships will be put to very good use. They are needed within the Naval Service. We are all aware of the excellent work it carries out on a daily basis in very difficult and dangerous circumstances, for which it has to be commended. The first ship is scheduled for delivery in early 2014 and the second will follow in early 2015. I can assure the Deputy that any moneys spent have been spent very wisely by the Naval Service.

                                Deputy Jonathan O’Brien:

                                Can I confirm that €12 million is due in 2012?

                                Deputy Paul Kehoe:

                                Yes, the next staged payment is €12 million and is scheduled for the end of March 2012, with an accompanying VAT liability of €2.7 million falling payable.

                                Deputy David Stanton:

                                The LE Eithne and LE Deirdre are being replaced, not the LE Roisin and LE Niamh. They are the new ships. Conditions in the Atlantic have become harsher and more difficult over the past number of years. The Naval Service provides a very important function in terms of fishery protection, drug detection, rescue and combatting human trafficking, among other functions. Its work often takes place over the horizon and is not seen.


                                Its work is essential and must be supported 100%. Will the Minister of State indicate when the next two ships are planned to be replaced?

                                Deputy Paul Kehoe:

                                I am not certain when the next two ships are planned for replacement. However, as a person from a coastal county myself, I assure the Deputy that I am mindful of the very important job carried out by the Naval Service. The Taoiseach recently travelled on one of the naval vessels and was greatly impressed by the extensive work carried out and the important nature of that work, whether in fisheries, drug interceptions or otherwise. The general public is probably not aware of the extent of the work carried out by the Naval Service. On a recent visit to Haulbowline, at which Deputy Stanton was in attendance, I was very impressed by the duty and dedication to their work of the staff, who conduct themselves in a very professional manner in sometimes difficult and dangerous circumstances at sea.

                                Deputy Dara Calleary:

                                I endorse everything the Minister of State and Deputy Stanton said in regard to the Naval Service. I commend Commander Mark Mellet and everybody involved. Given the role the Naval Service plays in fisheries protection and in drug seizures on an EU basis, is any contribution being made from the EU to the cost of these ships?

                                Deputy Paul Kehoe:

                                A sum of €900,000 was recently approved for that purpose and paid by the Commission. It is unlikely that further funding will be available from the EU, but this will not deter the Department or the Naval Service from seeking further moneys. I assure the Deputy that we will seek to maximise any funding possibilities that arise. When buying ships or other equipment, we will always investigate any financial assistance that might be available. I join Deputy Calleary in commending his fellow countyman, Commander Mellet, on his work at Haulbowline.
                                Last edited by Goldie fish; 14 December 2011, 11:32.


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