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  • #46
    Just one questions about the Meko 200 MRV how exactly is equipment/cargo loaded below deck is it even possible to store the likes of the Iveco DROPS,Iveco TCV/CSS Vechicles etc.. can these along with other cargo be stored under deck with this design or is it just vechicles/Large Cargo can be carried above deck only???
    British officer: You're seven minutes late, Mr. Collins.
    Michael Collins: You've kept us waiting 700 years. You can have your seven minutes.

    [As the British flag comes down]

    Michael Collins: So that's what all the bother was about.

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    • #47
      Below deck? As far as I can gather all large stowage is at deck level. People and compact stores can be handled below deck. Remember this vessel will only be doing resupply for a small percentage of its service.

      Have you visited the Blohm and Voss website?


      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Goldie fish
        As I have said in the other thread,its all to do with how the DF/Government market this to the voter. Is it a "state of the art warship" or "a multi purpose vessel, enhanced to carry Emergency aid on its decks,this saving the taxpayer the cost of hiring a Commercial vessel".
        Hmmm...Well with the recent announcement of a Rapid Response Specialist Corps and the Irish Volunteer Corps, the latter description may well be the case. It might just make for plain sailing through the tender process.

        Its just such a lovely ship.

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        • #49
          Yea, Looks that way that only small/medium stores will be kept below deck such as Rations,Ammonitions,Fuel and other essestiantial stores. I wonder is there any form of large side access double doors etc so to load such equipment/stores from quayside??? personnally i would have taught during the first weeks of set up stage of Liberia Type Scenario this vessl would be very busy and would be diverted from it usual OPV taskings etc... (going to and from the mission Area Of Operation AO bringing in supplies) And I would say it would be interesting to see the likes of Mowags And Iveco DROPS And Others TCVs being carried above decks together and would be proud sight displaying some overseas deployable assets altogether.
          British officer: You're seven minutes late, Mr. Collins.
          Michael Collins: You've kept us waiting 700 years. You can have your seven minutes.

          [As the British flag comes down]

          Michael Collins: So that's what all the bother was about.

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          • #50
            Whats the deal with the difference between the pictures on the first post, and in the picture in Goldies post here? Im talking about the location of the funnels.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by sunnyjim
              Whats the deal with the difference between the pictures on the first post, and in the picture in Goldies post here? Im talking about the location of the funnels.
              see post 26,27,28 this thread.

              Please read the thread in full. you could find your questions have already been answered, before you even need to resort to the search function.

              Originally posted by The Blue Max
              Yea, Looks that way that only small/medium stores will be kept below deck such as Rations,Ammonitions,Fuel and other essestiantial stores. I wonder is there any form of large side access double doors etc so to load such equipment/stores from quayside??? personnally i would have taught during the first weeks of set up stage of Liberia Type Scenario this vessl would be very busy and would be diverted from it usual OPV taskings etc... (going to and from the mission Area Of Operation AO bringing in supplies) And I would say it would be interesting to see the likes of Mowags And Iveco DROPS And Others TCVs being carried above decks together and would be proud sight displaying some overseas deployable assets altogether.
              Its been done since 1978. Park a few panhards on the decks aft, all other stores can be broken into small lots capable of being stored below decks without needing any doors larger than those that already exist. Even Eithne has been reconfigured to carry 2 Mowags and 4 TEUs on her helideck.Click here for what they done in Liberia


              Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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              • #52
                TEU they are 20ft container correct aswell as Two Mowags thats not a bad load would the Mowags be kept inside the Hanger or were exactly???
                British officer: You're seven minutes late, Mr. Collins.
                Michael Collins: You've kept us waiting 700 years. You can have your seven minutes.

                [As the British flag comes down]

                Michael Collins: So that's what all the bother was about.

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                • #53
                  What part of "on her helideck" confuses you? Any chance of a bit of punctuation now and again? It would make your posts a lot easier to read.


                  Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                  • #54
                    Will Try,NO Promises LOL!! Sorry missed the last bit of your previous post thanks for quick reponse are the TEUs Container??? and has it ever been conducted to see will it work i.e training scenario to load Two Mowags and the Four TEUs???
                    British officer: You're seven minutes late, Mr. Collins.
                    Michael Collins: You've kept us waiting 700 years. You can have your seven minutes.

                    [As the British flag comes down]

                    Michael Collins: So that's what all the bother was about.

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                    • #55
                      TEU=Twenty feet equivalent unit. (20 ft. container).



                      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Goldie fish
                        TEU=Twenty feet equivalent unit. (20 ft. container).

                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEU

                        Does anyone know the budget cost assainged to the ns on new ship costs???

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                        • #57
                          I dont know but it has to be close to 100,000,000 taking into consideration all the hi-tech dealies on board
                          Last edited by McCarthy; 3 January 2006, 13:19.

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                          • #58
                            I beg to differ but only at a guess another board member quoted that the Danish Absalon was priced at about 10000000 million Euros so considerin this vessel was fitted it far supiour weapons fit also had a large hanger for helo ops aswell the fact it was true RO-RO capable vessel which would ad imenseley to the cost i would reckon if this price realistically reflected to the Absalon then i would reckon the Bloon And Bloos equivilant would come in it at at sligthy under this at aroun 60/70 million accounting for several wrote above that the the Bloom And Bloos does not have e.g Hanger,RO-RO capable or superior Weapons Fit etc... This would be my reckoning on the figure personally.
                            British officer: You're seven minutes late, Mr. Collins.
                            Michael Collins: You've kept us waiting 700 years. You can have your seven minutes.

                            [As the British flag comes down]

                            Michael Collins: So that's what all the bother was about.

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                            • #59
                              Sorry, I meant to say 100,000,000.
                              After comparing the specifications of P51 and the MEKO 200 MRV, the most obvious difference between the two is size ( the mekos displacement is more than double that of Roisin). As Cdr. Mark Mellet said in An Cosantoir "steel is cheap and air is free" so size isnt really a big factor when it comes to cost. Roisin cost around 30 or 60 million I think.
                              So the equipment such as navigational equipment and armament should play a big part but from what I can see there is only an Oto Melara 76mm near the funnels and another one on the bow gun deck-not a considerable amount of money. A goalkeeper on either side would be a good addition.
                              Would the helicopter be included in the ships costs? because there isnt a lot of space for a helicopter suited to the relief role. In my view the perfect helicopter would be a Chinook heavy lift which could take cargo and supplies in case of a disaster and could also take troops in case of trouble should we be required to go.
                              There will be two 8 person ribs on-board which are really cheap considering how much they're used (43,000 each if Im not mistaken)...
                              Ive asked a member of the Navy will it cost more than 60 million and he said that the final cost will far exceed that amount.
                              So, in conclusion..the ships cost is..any bodys guess

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                              • #60
                                ^^^
                                I think everyone would like to see the chinook in service here but what are the chances of that happening. Even the Merlin and NH90 would probably be beyond reach.
                                Education isn't everything, for a start it isn't an elephant

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