OPV Replacement

[zone 1]

that is some dedication what was the other 10% used on .. 5% go search and rescue and 5% stopping drugs hitting our shore thank god we got a new custom boat then .. if we are to be serious we need at least 12 ship navy for our commitments .. will the new white paper on defence give them what they need ........ no

[sofa]

Fligt deck had a use until someone bought the wrong helo and not enough of them to make it work..it wass there as part of the design can't be removed, althought it could stillbe used and has been to land troops on expanding the role of Eithne to a mini troop carrier at times.



Wrong type of aircrew maybe ?

[Truck Driver]

They are not just fisheries protection! That is the job of the Fisheries Protection agency.
I suggest you Google Marita Ann, Chicotumi, Kowloon Bridge, Brime, Dances with waves.
Then tell me what type of fish these vessels were catching.
I fail to see why you are commenting on a thread about New Naval vessels when it is quite clear you have no knowledge of the role the Naval Service carries out.

Jeebus - you' re BACK !!!

[Goldie fish]

I made clear my intention to continue posting on this thread. Now if you have nothing to offer... off you pop.
The helideck has also shown its usefulness in carrying 20 foot containers of equipment for dive support etc, and if required, is the only vessel in the Fleet that can carry 2 Mowag Piranhas.

But that is Eithne.

The thread is supposed to be about the NEW OPV.

Can anyone stick to the topic?

[Herald]

Going by the tenders, i would have said that they're looking for the EPV for possible overseas deployment. Although a lot of peple have focused on the possible role in shipping supplies, I for one would perfer a ship capable of operating in missions like Somalia, with an adequate self defence capability.

How much would a CIWS add to the cost?, surely it couldn't be a massive amount?

[zone 1]

the McCarthy report says we should put of on purchasing of new ships ..could this be a clear indication that it definitely wont get the go ahead in 2010

[blaisec]

Why don't they tie the whole lot up, issue the lads with bicycle clips and mountain bikes, and do the patrols along the cliff tops and walking paths around the coast. It would have positive benefits for fitness in the service, and the maintenance costs would be less, in the event of a puncture worst case scenario, you get a few blisters pushing the bike back.

On the other hand there is also a rent to buy option. Consider this: I am sure that the Russians have few ships going spare some where, why not make a rental purchase offer!

[Dogwatch]

How much would a CIWS add to the cost?, surely it couldn't be a massive amount?

Mk 15 Phalanx Block 1B
IOC: 1999
Unitary Cost: USD$7.8 million

http://www.deagel.com/Ship-Air-Defense-Systems/Mk-15-Phalanx-Block-1B_a001641003.aspx

Unit cost €16 million
Goalkeeper is a Dutch close-in weapon system

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goalkeeper_CIWS

This would be more suitable for the littoral taskings & constabulary roles of the NS

Mk 44 7.62 mm Minigun
Recently fitted to any RN ships on operational deployments
Cost $25,000 (€16,700) for gun alone, but 4-6 & get a reduction!

[zone 1]

the Mk 44 7.62 looks a real bargin... would be a good choice of weapon to have on NS vessels price looks good to.

[DeV]

Why don't they tie the whole lot up, issue the lads with bicycle clips and mountain bikes, and do the patrols along the cliff tops and walking paths around the coast. It would have positive benefits for fitness in the service, and the maintenance costs would be less, in the event of a puncture worst case scenario, you get a few blisters pushing the bike back.

On the other hand there is also a rent to buy option. Consider this: I am sure that the Russians have few ships going spare some where, why not make a rental purchase offer!

How exactly will they see over 200 nm from the coast (they would want to be powerful binos!) ?

To buy/rent Russian would probably cost more - Westernising the vessels, getting them back into go nick, etc

[easyrider]

How much does the 76mm gun cost?

[zone 1]

some one told me before dont no how true but a second hand one like we have can cost up to a 1million euros dont no how true that is

[zone 1]

anyways could we trust a russian ship last time one of those were in our waters they made a mess no we should get those bikes blaisec is talking about the government give u a grant the greens would love the navy .. russin ships my god no keep emer . .

[Fireplace]

If you're talking about the 76mm SR for CIWS then I presume you need a good fire control radar for it, adding on much more cash.

[blaisec]

How exactly will they see over 200 nm from the coast (they would want to be powerful binos!) ?

To buy/rent Russian would probably cost more - Westernising the vessels, getting them back into go nick, etc

I was being flippant DeV, of course we need the coverage 200Nm out. As to westernizing the Russian ships, would it not be a chance for the Languge school in the Curragh to shine.
Teaching the Navy lads to speak russian so they can read and translate the machinary labels/i.ds etc. The stop / go buttons should not be a problem RED/ GREEN!!!