Found on E-Bay

[Buck]

As an aside, if anyone else is shifting on an og jacket...

[DeV]

Not eBay


http://www.arktisoutdoor.co.uk/irish-dpm

[ropebag]

Not eBay


http://www.arktisoutdoor.co.uk/irish-dpm

Didn't Arktis make the original issues - they may well have a clause in the contract allowing them to keep producing stuff in the IDPM pattern after the original contract was completed.

[ODIN]

Not eBay


http://www.arktisoutdoor.co.uk/irish-dpm

Ha...finally I can get a new Bush Hat!!!! In all seriousness though, they must have a deal with the DF, or have made slight changes to the pattern to get around copyright. Hell, the DF may even be allowing them to do this, Irish DPM is popular with the airsoft community and others, allowing arktis to license the pattern and produce it might keep some of the official stuff from popping up on Ebay.

[pym]

There's another thread here somewhere - I think it was said that: Arktis designed the original Irish DPM gear and after the first batch, DoD went with a cheaper supplier, but some(?) of the gear for the sniper teams is still sourced from Arktis.

Have a civvy smock from them, built like a tank and will probably outlast me.

[DeV]

The material can only be procured by the DF

[ropebag]

The material can only be procured by the DF

really?

you don't believe that anyone who can print cloth can do it - you also believe that Irish Law applies everywhere?

are you sure you're allowed a rifle/shoelaces?

[DeV]

really?

you don't believe that anyone who can print cloth can do it - you also believe that Irish Law applies everywhere?

are you sure you're allowed a rifle/shoelaces?

There is the Defence Act yes - ever hear of contract law???

[ropebag]

There is the Defence Act yes - ever hear of contract law???

You probably ought to talk to Nike, they mustn't be aware that there's a simple, cheap way of getting Chinese factories to stop ripping them off.

So, this Defence Act, the one doesn't apply to companies who aren't in Ireland - like, for example, Arktis - tell me about it....

[Bravo20]

No but copyright law would apply and contract law (depending on the contract they signed). Also the defence acts would make it illegal for them to export goods to this country as well as making it illegal for someone in this country from buying them.

Also please refrain from personal insults when you reply to this.

[apod]

Arktis supplied the ARW with their smocks and trousers circa 1995.
We designed the pattern and I believe paid Arktis a fee for use of their clothing design.
Portwest in Mayo and Seyntex in Belgium produced the first items for issue in 1999.
Arktis continue to manufacture specialist items for us.
Both Seyntex and Arktis have been known for selling off surplus items AND Seyntex has sold off surplus material.

[pym]

Is the term "Irish DPM" copyrighted? As for the pattern itself, Crye haven't had much luck protecting theirs - the Brits and Yanks sidestepped royalties by making a very minor alteration to the pattern and the makers have avoided any repercussions from Crye: http://www.thefashionlaw.com/home/us...-army-supplier

And as for all the Chinese copies...

So if there's even a minute difference between what Arktis are selling and the official pattern, I think DoD would have a very hard time doing anything about it.

[Truck Driver]

Is the term "Irish DPM" copyrighted? As for the pattern itself, Crye haven't had much luck protecting theirs - the Brits and Yanks sidestepped royalties by making a very minor alteration to the pattern and the makers have avoided any repercussions from Crye: http://www.thefashionlaw.com/home/us...-army-supplier

And as for all the Chinese copies...

So if there's even a minute difference between what Arktis are selling and the official pattern, I think DoD would have a very hard time doing anything about it.

From the pics I saw, the brown shade in the pattern looks more red than brown

[na grohmití]

From the pics I saw, the brown shade in the pattern looks more red than brown

Like officers brown shoes? Oxblood.

[The real Jack]

The material can only be procured by the DF

You can buy it by the meter on AliExpress

[apod]

Crye haven't had much luck protecting theirs - the Brits and Yanks sidestepped royalties by making a very minor alteration to the pattern

Quite the opposite.The yanks got Crye to develop their Scorpion pattern.When the numpties that be decided to go with UCP Crye took the scorpion pattern,tweaked it, and sold it as Multicam. The yanks owned the original pattern.When they decided to ditch UCP and OEF pattern and go to OCP(scorpion w2)they made minor changes to stop Crye from claiming that they were copying Multicam.
The Brits had to pay for a licence to produce their DPM blended with Cryes Multicam as MTP. Hence the reason that in the early days of MTP it could not be got commercially.The licence has expired now.

[pym]

Quite the opposite.The yanks got Crye to develop their Scorpion pattern.When the numpties that be decided to go with UCP Crye took the scorpion pattern,tweaked it, and sold it as Multicam. The yanks owned the original pattern.When they decided to ditch UCP and OEF pattern and go to OCP(scorpion w2)they made minor changes to stop Crye from claiming that they were copying Multicam.
The Brits had to pay for a licence to produce their DPM blended with Cryes Multicam as MTP. Hence the reason that in the early days of MTP it could not be got commercially.The licence has expired now.

Thanks for that - I had the wrong impression of the whole thing.