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  • As an aside, if anyone else is shifting on an og jacket...
    I knew a simple soldier boy.....
    Who grinned at life in empty joy,
    Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
    And whistled early with the lark.

    In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
    With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
    He put a bullet through his brain.
    And no one spoke of him again.

    You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
    Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
    Sneak home and pray you'll never know
    The hell where youth and laughter go.

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    • Not eBay


      Arktis Irish DPM camo. Jackets, Smocks, Headwear, Coats, Trousers & More. Favoured by Irish soldiers over the standard issued gear. Often referred to as "Paddyflage", the Irish DPM camouflage pattern was officially issued to military personnel in Ireland in March 2000.

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      • Originally posted by DeV View Post
        Didn't Arktis make the original issues - they may well have a clause in the contract allowing them to keep producing stuff in the IDPM pattern after the original contract was completed.

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        • Originally posted by DeV View Post
          Ha...finally I can get a new Bush Hat!!!! In all seriousness though, they must have a deal with the DF, or have made slight changes to the pattern to get around copyright. Hell, the DF may even be allowing them to do this, Irish DPM is popular with the airsoft community and others, allowing arktis to license the pattern and produce it might keep some of the official stuff from popping up on Ebay.
          What are you cackling at, fatty? Too much pie, that's your problem.

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          • There's another thread here somewhere - I think it was said that: Arktis designed the original Irish DPM gear and after the first batch, DoD went with a cheaper supplier, but some(?) of the gear for the sniper teams is still sourced from Arktis.

            Have a civvy smock from them, built like a tank and will probably outlast me.

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            • The material can only be procured by the DF

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              • Originally posted by DeV View Post
                The material can only be procured by the DF
                really?

                you don't believe that anyone who can print cloth can do it - you also believe that Irish Law applies everywhere?

                are you sure you're allowed a rifle/shoelaces?

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                • Originally posted by ropebag View Post
                  really?

                  you don't believe that anyone who can print cloth can do it - you also believe that Irish Law applies everywhere?

                  are you sure you're allowed a rifle/shoelaces?
                  There is the Defence Act yes - ever hear of contract law???

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                  • Originally posted by DeV View Post
                    There is the Defence Act yes - ever hear of contract law???
                    You probably ought to talk to Nike, they mustn't be aware that there's a simple, cheap way of getting Chinese factories to stop ripping them off.

                    So, this Defence Act, the one doesn't apply to companies who aren't in Ireland - like, for example, Arktis - tell me about it....

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                    • No but copyright law would apply and contract law (depending on the contract they signed). Also the defence acts would make it illegal for them to export goods to this country as well as making it illegal for someone in this country from buying them.

                      Also please refrain from personal insults when you reply to this.

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                      • Arktis supplied the ARW with their smocks and trousers circa 1995.
                        We designed the pattern and I believe paid Arktis a fee for use of their clothing design.
                        Portwest in Mayo and Seyntex in Belgium produced the first items for issue in 1999.
                        Arktis continue to manufacture specialist items for us.
                        Both Seyntex and Arktis have been known for selling off surplus items AND Seyntex has sold off surplus material.
                        "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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                        • Is the term "Irish DPM" copyrighted? As for the pattern itself, Crye haven't had much luck protecting theirs - the Brits and Yanks sidestepped royalties by making a very minor alteration to the pattern and the makers have avoided any repercussions from Crye: http://www.thefashionlaw.com/home/us...-army-supplier

                          And as for all the Chinese copies...

                          So if there's even a minute difference between what Arktis are selling and the official pattern, I think DoD would have a very hard time doing anything about it.

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                          • Originally posted by pym View Post
                            Is the term "Irish DPM" copyrighted? As for the pattern itself, Crye haven't had much luck protecting theirs - the Brits and Yanks sidestepped royalties by making a very minor alteration to the pattern and the makers have avoided any repercussions from Crye: http://www.thefashionlaw.com/home/us...-army-supplier

                            And as for all the Chinese copies...

                            So if there's even a minute difference between what Arktis are selling and the official pattern, I think DoD would have a very hard time doing anything about it.
                            From the pics I saw, the brown shade in the pattern looks more red than brown
                            "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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                            • Originally posted by Truck Driver View Post
                              From the pics I saw, the brown shade in the pattern looks more red than brown
                              Like officers brown shoes? Oxblood.
                              For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                              • Originally posted by DeV View Post
                                The material can only be procured by the DF
                                You can buy it by the meter on AliExpress
                                Everyone who's ever loved you was wrong.

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