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Originally posted by Graylion View PostSo what is wrong with H&W? And again, how do you plan to pay for it? At a time when we can't afford to pay the troops sensibly?
Like building ships if we don't put capital investment projects in place to support ships, we won't have a navy for people to serve in!Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostAlthough I would support a dedicated drydock is the basin not too shallow? Such a strategic asset must not only be able to take the current fleet but any future fleet such as the MRV. Looking at draught of ships like the BRP Tarlac (5.0m), HNLMS Rotterdam (6m), HMNZS Canterbury (5.6m) and that a meter or more should be left for the keel blocks then the available depth for the old graving dock might not be enough.
A possible alternative could be a floating dock, many of which are available 2nd hand at the moment for not a not of cash.
A floating dock is possible but would need careful seabed siting with easy access for operators.
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Originally posted by DeV View PostTo me it comes down to utilisation and staffing"Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"
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oh, great, I've even got a fellow MOD dragging the thread off topic, this is the DRYDOCKING thread."We will hold out until our last bullet is spent. Could do with some whiskey"
Radio transmission, siege of Jadotville DR Congo. September 1961.
Illegitimi non carborundum
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In all seriousness, even though we're all friends together now, and the past unpleasantness is a dim memory ("don't mention the war, Sybil"), would there not be serious security implications and risks to having a major "Free State / Fenian"* military asset undergoing a major refit in H&W over and above having it done in any other UK or European yard?
*Not my phrase, but undoubtedly how it would be looked on by those who might wish to bugger it up!'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html
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Originally posted by Flamingo View PostIn all seriousness, even though we're all friends together now, and the past unpleasantness is a dim memory ("don't mention the war, Sybil"), would there not be serious security implications and risks to having a major "Free State / Fenian"* military asset undergoing a major refit in H&W over and above having it done in any other UK or European yard?
*Not my phrase, but undoubtedly how it would be looked on by those who might wish to bugger it up!
Do Appledore do drydocking?
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Originally posted by DeV View PostIMHO NI would be a bridge too far
Do Appledore do drydocking?
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When one looks on google maps at Haulbowline - what is the wasteland in the centre of the island intended for?
the bit that separates the actual Naval HQ from the basin and harbour facilities?
Also look how the defence forces land there was eroded over the years, loss of land on the main land, loss of the island (the powder magazine) loss of spike island and now a proposed public park adjacent to the countrys only naval base. FMLLast edited by morpheus; 23 January 2018, 12:11."He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
"No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."
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Originally posted by morpheus View PostWhen one looks on google maps at Haulbowline - what is the wasteland in the centre of the island intended for?
the bit that separates the actual Naval HQ from the basin and harbour facilities?
Also look how the defence forces land there was eroded over the years, loss of land on the main land, loss of the island (the powder magazine) loss of spike island and now a proposed public park adjacent to the countrys only naval base. FML
So with all this information.. where else would you put a dry dock!!!
Quite straight forward actually.Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe
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Originally posted by morpheus View PostWhen one looks on google maps at Haulbowline - what is the wasteland in the centre of the island intended for?
the bit that separates the actual Naval HQ from the basin and harbour facilities?
Also look how the defence forces land there was eroded over the years, loss of land on the main land, loss of the island (the powder magazine) loss of spike island and now a proposed public park adjacent to the countrys only naval base. FML
Spike island was inherited, and while useful as a training area, like every other closed barracks, required a maintenance staff that would be better employed elsewhere. As a prison it was far too large than any use the DF would have for it.
Off topic, on the foundation of the state we were gifted many barracks that only existed to defend the crown from the irish people. Coolmoney is only there because of Michael Dwyer and his activities during 1798. Many barracks around the country were built during that time period, to keep control over the natives.
Their spread, nationwide is impractical for a force not at war with its citizens.
The waste ground is the site of the former irish steel, and much of it remains a toxic dump.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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