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"the worst. worst. worst thing you could possibly do would be to try and bastardise the two types - all you'd get would be a really crap, but reasuringly expensive, light frigate with little offensive or defensive capability, along with the load carrying ability of an athsmatic Ant.
Hmm Absalon doesnt appear to be that crap.
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Originally posted by Graylion View PostOh and I just talked to a contact. Overall price is 254 M$. The 140 M£ (172 M$) is just before the final outfiitting in a Norwegian shipyard, which is where all the expensive stuff is installed. Still a good price though.
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Originally posted by Sparky42 View PostNot really surprised, but plenty of the EU nations are getting "cute" in terms of how they are pricing the hulls (for example for the Absalon step sisters the cost is just the hull, weapons etc aren't priced in.
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Originally posted by Jetjock View PostThe phrase "designed around" springs to mind.
Regarding the radar, my thoughts exactly and hence my confusion. 100nm missile range is irrelevant if you don't have something, airborne or otherwise to do provide target info. You just won't see it with on-board systems.
As for needing target information the NSM is able to find its own target thanks to its IIR and on-board library of targets. So all you need to know is the rough area where the target is.
Of course how much of the library would be available to us as a non-NATO country is something that would need to be handled.
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostThe NSM comes in a box launcher which can be bolted on just like any other launcher as for Exocet or Harpoon.
As for needing target information the NSM is able to find its own target thanks to its IIR and on-board library of targets. So all you need to know is the rough area where the target is.
Of course how much of the library would be available to us as a non-NATO country is something that would need to be handled.
You're also going to need to be a small bit more specific than saying there's a ship 60 miles out to starboard unless you have a hell of a lot of spare rounds. An internal IR database is about as useful as a copy of "Ships Monthly" if you don't put the missile in a 5 mile x 5 mile box.Last edited by Jetjock; 8 March 2017, 00:45.
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Originally posted by Jetjock View PostThe NSM is about as bolt on to the referenced ship as the engine. Way to reference a 2 month old post by the way. There is practically no ASM that isn't available in a bolt on container. Well done.
You're also going to need to be a small bit more specific than saying there's a ship 60 miles out to starboard unless you have a hell of a lot of spare rounds. An internal IR database is about as useful as a copy of "Ships Monthly" if you don't put the missile in a 5 mile x 5 mile box.
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Originally posted by ancientmariner View PostThe 3.96meter missile with a range up to 185km has GPS aided mid course guidance . It also has Autonomous Target recognition with good target discrimination over sea and land. It would come subject to an accurate detection and guidance system. It is capable of terminal manoeuver to avoid weapon systems at target. It is 407kgs at launch and arrives with 145kgs of explosive. It has been trialed on test ships so it must have been uniquely installed on the Norwegian and US ships by a bolt-on procedure. It is the must have missile for land. air, and Sea platforms. The Polish package for Coast Defence was 123m USD. Cheap for what it does.
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