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  • Major CT ex yesterday

    500 troops involved yesterday

    This gives you an idea of the scenario

  • #2
    According to Ian O'Doherty's article in last Thursday Indo the cops never turned up for the major exercise attended by 15 other countries

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    • #3
      Originally posted by sofa View Post
      According to Ian O'Doherty's article in last Thursday Indo the cops never turned up for the major exercise attended by 15 other countries
      it was a course in the DFTC

      Think they had people on previous ones

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      • #4
        Ian O D is a serial whiner. I've not experienced anyone so disagreeable.
        For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by na grohmití View Post
          Ian O D is a serial whiner. I've not experienced anyone so disagreeable.
          True, but read the full article it was fighting the DFs corner.

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          • #6


            Que ARW looking for medium lift helis on 24hr availability - never happen though
            "He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
            "No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."

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            • #7
              They should have got them when they last asked for them in 2001. While the order was cancelled, the requirement didn't change.
              For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by na grohmití View Post
                They should have got them when they last asked for them in 2001. While the order was cancelled, the requirement didn't change.
                Except the contract was for 4 (3 of which were for SAR)

                Edit

                5 (3 for SAR plus an option for 2 troop transport)
                Last edited by DeV; 11 December 2017, 11:45.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by morpheus View Post
                  http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakin...ck-818026.html

                  Que ARW looking for medium lift helis on 24hr availability - never happen though
                  There is a requirement for a 24/7 utility helo at x NTM for many tasks

                  EAS is going to absorb a lot of available resources

                  We can get all the helos we want still can’t crew and maintain them due to lack of personnel or do ATC

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                  • #10
                    My point stands. The last WP (which as we all know is policy/gospel etc) identified the need to maintain/generate
                    a 24 hour general helicopter capability for a variety of military and non-military tasks, including Garda support..
                    Defence Forces White Paper Feb 2000. 4.10.4
                    Clearly that no longer exists.
                    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                    • #11
                      EAS is going to absorb a lot of available resources
                      four big red choppers sat there being paid for which could do the job
                      "Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "

                      "No, they're trying to fly the tank"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by na grohmití View Post
                        My point stands. The last WP (which as we all know is policy/gospel etc) identified the need to maintain/generate
                        Defence Forces White Paper Feb 2000. 4.10.4
                        Clearly that no longer exists.
                        “... helicopters will continue to provide the required level of Defence Forces support....” doesn’t state what it is

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by trellheim View Post
                          four big red choppers sat there being paid for which could do the job
                          They are doing them too in fairness

                          But there is probably enough work for at least 1 dedicated assets (provided by someone)

                          Does CHC provide for an AP on all rosters (or is it still a paramedic)?

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                          • #14
                            The only way you are going to get a helicopter and associated ground and flight crew for ARW is if you physically pry one out of the Don and permanently assign it to ARW and station it in the Curragh for their exclusive use. This would have to burst several bubbles; that the Army can be trusted to run a single helicopter without AC support. This is entirely possible, of course but the Don will fight tooth and nail to prevent it, as any thing that reduces their establishment will not be tolerated; that the ARW might have the wit, skill and talent to run a single helicopter. Of course they do. If the ARW could considered to be the peak of soldiering, intellectually and physically, in the DF, then running a helicopter will be child's play for them; do what grown up Armies do and permanently assign a helicopter and manpower to the SF, so that they are not dependent on the humours and moods of another agency. I'm quite sure the ARW can be taught how to change an oil filter or a rotor blade without the earth tilting off it's axis...

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                            • #15
                              EAS is what is killing our capability.Great for getting the pilots hours up,and yes there are transferable skills such as experience of landing on unprepared sites and NVG flying,but EAS at the end of the day should be done by civvies.You know ,like most other countries do.Get civvy companies to sponsor them like in the UK and get the AC back flying for the Military.
                              "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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