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  • #16
    Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
    There was me thinking she was an uber warrior or leader of a great military nation.... Irish Women Liberation movements?????..is that like the PLO or MPLA????
    These'd be more like the ICA (Revolutionary cells) Murph.

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    • #17
      Mic Drop from the ONE.

      For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by DaithiDub View Post
        You're in danger of sounding just like her, you do realise. As well, all three of your examples here were in pursuit of the interests of the British Empire, not for anything worthy that the public (rightfully) would back Irish lives being sacrificed for. The Crimean War was largely ignored, but both the Second Boer War and WWI were actively opposed by a large part of the population.
        Not saying that the Army press office start looking to start a war with someone. Just stating my opinion why a people are reminded why their army is needed in other counties.

        In David Murphy's book " Ireland and the Crimean War" He states that there were meetings around the country demanding that the government do something about the Russians in the Crimean. And when the government started recruiting the Irish joined in their thousands.
        ( Irish Nun run field hospital in the Crimean had a better survival rate then what'sherface and was the preferred destination of the wounded)


        No shortage of Irish involvement in the Boer war on the British side . or on the side of Mc'Bride's mate's the white supremacect Dutch land grabbers

        Lots of photos of the great Irish Regiments marching of to the ports with the streets lined with the Irish cheering them on.
        There was no lack of interest in the war in the likes of the Liberties of Dublin where the men joined in the hundreds.
        Last edited by sofa; 3 July 2018, 01:16.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by na grohmit� View Post
          Mary Kenny is an Irish author, broadcaster, playwright and journalist. She is a frequent columnist for the Irish Independent. She was a founding member of the Irish Women's Liberation Movement.
          She resurfaced a number of years ago with a new English lady accent. may have gone to the same "Bate the Irish ou a ya" course Gloria Hunniford went to.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by sofa View Post
            She resurfaced a number of years ago with a new English lady accent. may have gone to the same "Bate the Irish ou a ya" course Gloria Hunniford went to.
            Well in the case of Glorias Port - e - doun accent that was a relief.

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            • #21
              As a new recruit in the RDF I pay attention to posts like this (Mary Kenny) on Facebook and Twitter. I think people like her are short sighted and don't understand the full value of the Defense Forces to the communities at home and abroad.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by sofa View Post
                Not saying that the Army press office start looking to start a war with someone. Just stating my opinion why a people are reminded why their army is needed in other counties.

                In David Murphy's book " Ireland and the Crimean War" He states that there were meetings around the country demanding that the government do something about the Russians in the Crimean. And when the government started recruiting the Irish joined in their thousands.
                ( Irish Nun run field hospital in the Crimean had a better survival rate then what'sherface and was the preferred destination of the wounded)


                No shortage of Irish involvement in the Boer war on the British side . or on the side of Mc'Bride's mate's the white supremacect Dutch land grabbers

                Lots of photos of the great Irish Regiments marching of to the ports with the streets lined with the Irish cheering them on.
                There was no lack of interest in the war in the likes of the Liberties of Dublin where the men joined in the hundreds.
                You haven't at all addressed the point about the reasons for each of those three, which no right-minded person would call justified (Crimea and WWI were just jockeying between the powers, while the Second Boer War was a grubby colonial expansion in Africa complete with concentration camps where so many Boer civilians died). Crimea itself can claim the dubious honour (pun unintended) of being the origin of that venerable British tradition of awarding Victoria Crosses to cover up military disasters.

                A decade after Crimea the British had a major panic when it was realised that the Fenians were successfully recruiting large proportions of those 'Irish' soldiers. Historians have also written extensively about the very serious British problems recruiting here during the Second Boer War and WWI due to an effective and widespread opposition, as I suspect you well know.
                Last edited by DaithiDub; 13 July 2018, 01:57.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DaithiDub View Post
                  You haven't at all addressed the point about the reasons for each of those three, which no right-minded person would call justified (Crimea and WWI were just jockeying between the powers, while the Second Boer War was a grubby colonial expansion in Africa complete with concentration camps where so many Boer civilians died). Crimea itself can claim the dubious honour (pun unintended) of being the origin of that venerable British tradition of awarding Victoria Crosses to cover up military disasters.

                  A decade after Crimea the British had a major panic when it was realised that the Fenians were successfully recruiting large proportions of those 'Irish' soldiers. Historians have also written extensively about the very serious British problems recruiting here during the Second Boer War and WWI due to an effective and widespread opposition, as I suspect you well know.
                  What ever the reason good or bad, right or wrong of the wars/campaign. Where ever the British went to fight or occupy, The Great Irish Regiments marched through the streets of Ireland to the ports lined with cheering Irish to join them. Followed not to far behind by our missionaries who with their whites mans religion messed up the conquered people culture.

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                  Quite rightly we resisted conscription because London never consulted the Irish people before they started sending the poor off to be slaughtered due to their incompetent Top Brass
                  Last edited by sofa; 13 July 2018, 22:37.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DaithiDub View Post
                    You haven't at all addressed the point about the reasons for each of those three, which no right-minded person would call justified (Crimea and WWI were just jockeying between the powers, while the Second Boer War was a grubby colonial expansion in Africa complete with concentration camps where so many Boer civilians died). Crimea itself can claim the dubious honour (pun unintended) of being the origin of that venerable British tradition of awarding Victoria Crosses to cover up military disasters.

                    A decade after Crimea the British had a major panic when it was realised that the Fenians were successfully recruiting large proportions of those 'Irish' soldiers. Historians have also written extensively about the very serious British problems recruiting here during the Second Boer War and WWI due to an effective and widespread opposition, as I suspect you well know.
                    What ever the reason good or bad, right or wrong of the wars/campaign. Where ever the British went to fight or occupy, The Great Irish Regiments marched through the streets of Ireland to the ports lined with cheering Irish to join them. Followed not to far behind by our missionaries who with their whites mans religion messed up the conquered people culture.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by na grohmit� View Post
                      For those of you not on Twitter, this persons recent observations on the Irish Defence Forces have caused quite a stir. Great to see the general public leaping to the defence of the Defence Forces...




                      Some of the responses have been epic.










                      just a thought but as a mother, which would she choose to put in harms way ... Patrick or Ed ??

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                      • #26
                        I was listening to her on the radio this morning and the interviewer brought it up. She said it goes down as probably the most stupid thing she has ever said.

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                        • #27
                          At least she knows that when you are in a hole, stop digging
                          'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                          'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                          Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                          He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                          http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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