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Fireplace · 25th February 2010, 15:46

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German Army Report Highlights NH90 Deficiencies
By THOMAS NEWDICK, BERLIN
Published: 24 Feb 2010 11:27 PRINT | EMAIL

An internal German Army report has provided a damning assessment of the German military's new NHIndustries NH90 multi-purpose helicopter. The 103-page document assesses the helicopter's current operational capability as extremely limited, and highlights a range of deficiencies. Compiled by the Luftlande- und Lufttransportschule (Airborne and Air Transport School), the report recommends using alternative aircraft whenever possible in an operational scenario.

Key problems outlined by the military include excessively limited ground clearance that prohibits soldiers' entry and exit except when on hard surfaces that are free of obstacles greater than 16 centimeters. Within the cabin, the seats are considered capable of accommodating only soldiers who weigh less than 110 kilograms with their gear. The German Army's latest Infantrie der Zukunft (Future Soldier) personal equipment weighs 25 kilos.

Limited internal dimensions mean that an infantry team can be carried only if team members leave their personal weapons and kit on the floor, where the items cannot be secured. The floor has proven so sensitive that it can be damaged by dirty boots, and the rear ramp is unable to support fully equipped soldiers, limiting its use for rapid entry and disembarkation.

Heavier infantry weapons, such as the Stinger man-portable surface-to-air missile and MILAN anti-armor missile, cannot currently be transported, since strap-down attachments are not provided. The transport of combined loads of troops and cargo is also prohibited.

The limited cabin space means there is no defensive machine gun and door-gunner.

The helicopter's winch is not powerful enough for the fast-roping of commando teams or boarding parties. The NH90 is also unable to deliver paratroops using automatic release, the report states.

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...31&c=AIR&s=TOP

Te Kaha · 26th February 2010, 05:33

What this media report fails to point out is that the NH-90 testing completed by the Germans are essentially pre-production systems tests that are part of a standard process in any introduction of a new aircraft type. I understand that they used around a dozen pre-production airframes to carry out these tests and though they have shown up shortfalls in some areas they are not in my view significant and can be rectified. From a Kiwi perspective the RNZAF seems confident that the NH-90 TTH’s its buying will be a massive leap on their Vietnam era Huey’s. I’m confident that by the time the actual production versions of the NH-90 are delivered they will be tough birds. One thing I should also point out is that there are a number of different fit-out configurations of the NH-90 that are available to suit customers needs.

Pod · 1st March 2010, 23:57

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Originally Posted by Fireplace

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php...31&c=AIR&s=TOP

don't get the point about the rating of seats & weight of individual soldiers - typical body without kit weights 75-80 kg,(roughly 12-13 stone) plus the 25 kg for personal kit -still comes in less than the rated 110kg

Jetjock · 8th March 2010, 22:49

One for GTTC:

Looking very well in green:http://www.flickr.com/photos/shanair/4415212040/

Aer Arann ATR-72 now operating under the Aer Lingus Regional flag.

Photo by Malcolm Nason

RoyalGreenJacket · 9th March 2010, 13:58

Royal Navy female pilots now flying Russian heli's in the UK:

www - MoD Russian Heli training in the UK

i still don't want to get in one - even if the pilot is quite hot!

apc · 9th March 2010, 15:05

RGJ said

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i still don't want to get in one - even if the pilot is quite hot!

WHY?

zone 1 · 9th March 2010, 15:47

i was in one in chad there OK a bit different to what we have in Europe

**trellheim** · 9th March 2010, 16:03

http://igor113.livejournal.com/51213.html

seen on boards.ie ...

what the f**k is it ? Did it ever fly ? looks like a missile launcher of some kind

PS I want one.

zone 1 · 9th March 2010, 16:11

ye they were a cold war plane boat kind of thing when they reached there top speed they came out of the water 20 plus feet i think. seen something on discovery about them never made it in to production the guy that was the head of it got the sack i think................

CS Gass · 9th March 2010, 16:12

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Originally Posted by trellheim

http://igor113.livejournal.com/51213.html

seen on boards.ie ...

what the f**k is it ? Did it ever fly ? looks like a missile launcher of some kind

It looks like the plane from Team America, wonder how it ended up in Russia

smegers · 9th March 2010, 16:37

It doesn't fly its an ekranoplan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_effect_vehicle

Mad P · 10th March 2010, 18:26

It looks like the Caspian Sea Monster....

Fairly pointless lookin thing, If they wanted transport build a boat.
If they needed to fly stuff they had the Antonov!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...monster&hl=en#

pmtts · 10th March 2010, 19:12

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Originally Posted by trellheim

http://igor113.livejournal.com/51213.html

seen on boards.ie ...

what the f**k is it ? Did it ever fly ? looks like a missile launcher of some kind

PS I want one.

Here it is again. The "Lun" was launched on water, the first ship of a series battle missile ekranoplanes (length: 242-ft, span: 144-ft 4-in, weight 882,000-lb). The main designer was V.Kirillovykh. The ship was armed by three pairs of cruise missile 3M80 or 80M "Mosquito" (NATO's designation SS-N-22 Sunburn). The second "Lun" was also pawned as missile boat, but the beginning of conversion has brought the corrective amendments, and it was built as a rescue boat.

hedgehog · 10th March 2010, 20:55

Is it this one

Linkie removed due to reports of a virus

**trellheim** · 10th March 2010, 21:00

yes, see link above. Mad yoke. I still want one though. NSR should have 3 at least.

Mad P · 12th March 2010, 12:33

On google earth,

Ground effect aircraft - lat=42*53'52.49" N, lon=47*39'23.17" E

The ships & warehouses beside it give some scale as to it's size

ackack · 12th March 2010, 12:44

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Originally Posted by mad p

on google earth,

ground effect aircraft - lat=42*53'52.49" n, lon=47*39'23.17" e

the ships & warehouses beside it give some scale as to it's size

42 52 54.69 n 47 39 23.50 e

Oh and what kind of aircraft is this 42°52'59.23"N 47°39'11.78"E

Mad P · 13th March 2010, 18:17

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Originally Posted by ackack

42 52 54.69 n 47 39 23.50 e

Oh and what kind of aircraft is this 42°52'59.23"N 47°39'11.78"E

Ha ha aren't ya funny!

ackack · 13th March 2010, 19:35

yes, yes i am.

Craghopper · 13th March 2010, 19:46

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Originally Posted by hedgehog

Is it this one
Linkie removed due to reports of a virus

There is a VIRUS in that link!! My AVAST SCANNER JUST CAME UP WITH A WARNING.

**trellheim** · 14th March 2010, 13:23

what virus, pls post details ?

ZULU · 15th March 2010, 12:54

52°10'50.48"N 9°32'17.30"W

Secret Air Corp aircraft maybe hiding along the lines of our hospital ship?

Craghopper · 15th March 2010, 13:05

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Originally Posted by trellheim

what virus, pls post details ?

When i clicked on the link my anti virus software came up with a warning of a virus and not to proceed with the connection.

I use Avast.

ackack · 15th March 2010, 13:19

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Originally Posted by ZULU

52°10'50.48"N 9°32'17.30"W

Secret Air Corp aircraft maybe hiding along the lines of our hospital ship?

not hiding it very well.

smegers · 15th March 2010, 13:20

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Originally Posted by ZULU

52°10'50.48"N 9°32'17.30"W

Secret Air Corp aircraft maybe hiding along the lines of our hospital ship?

Is it just me or does that look like an A-10.

8th March 2010, 22:49	#1779
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10th March 2010, 18:26	#1787
Mad P Corporal Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kildare Posts: 67	It looks like the Caspian Sea Monster.... Fairly pointless lookin thing, If they wanted transport build a boat. If they needed to fly stuff they had the Antonov!! http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...monster&hl=en# __________________ Life's short, party naked :-)

10th March 2010, 21:00	#1790
trellheim 2/Lt Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cathal Brugha Posts: 5,078	yes, see link above. Mad yoke. I still want one though. NSR should have 3 at least. __________________ Hedley Lamarr: My mind is aglow with whirling, transient nodes of thought careening through a cosmic vapor of invention. Taggart: Ditto. Hedley Lamarr: "Ditto?" "Ditto," you provincial putz?

26th February 2010, 05:33	#1777
Te Kaha Private 2* Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 124	What this media report fails to point out is that the NH-90 testing completed by the Germans are essentially pre-production systems tests that are part of a standard process in any introduction of a new aircraft type. I understand that they used around a dozen pre-production airframes to carry out these tests and though they have shown up shortfalls in some areas they are not in my view significant and can be rectified. From a Kiwi perspective the RNZAF seems confident that the NH-90 TTH’s its buying will be a massive leap on their Vietnam era Huey’s. I’m confident that by the time the actual production versions of the NH-90 are delivered they will be tough birds. One thing I should also point out is that there are a number of different fit-out configurations of the NH-90 that are available to suit customers needs.

9th March 2010, 15:47	#1782
zone 1 CQMS Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 232	i was in one in chad there OK a bit different to what we have in Europe

9th March 2010, 16:11	#1784
zone 1 CQMS Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 232	ye they were a cold war plane boat kind of thing when they reached there top speed they came out of the water 20 plus feet i think. seen something on discovery about them never made it in to production the guy that was the head of it got the sack i think................

9th March 2010, 16:37	#1786
smegers sapper Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Limerick Posts: 238	It doesn't fly its an ekranoplan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_effect_vehicle

12th March 2010, 12:33	#1791
Mad P Corporal Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kildare Posts: 67	On google earth, Ground effect aircraft - lat=4253'52.49" N, lon=4739'23.17" E The ships & warehouses beside it give some scale as to it's size __________________ Life's short, party naked :-)

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trellheim 2/Lt Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cathal Brugha Posts: 5,078	what virus, pls post details ? __________________ Hedley Lamarr: My mind is aglow with whirling, transient nodes of thought careening through a cosmic vapor of invention. Taggart: Ditto. Hedley Lamarr: "Ditto?" "Ditto," you provincial putz?

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