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  • #16
    We have a tradition going back since the corvettes arrived. We are a long way from exhausting names in Irish mythology. The names are non-sectarian, non political, non religious and unlikely to cause offence to anyone in this nation of people looking for a reason to phone Joe Duffy. FFS if it ain't broke don't fix it.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by jack nastyface View Post
      We should name them after things in contemporary Ireland.
      LE Begrudgery.
      LE Me Feiner.
      I can just picture the scene of panic in the wheelhouse of a fishing trawler, trying to get the log book up to date, as LE Corrupt Politician hoves into view on the horizon, bow wave frothing, etc etc...
      L.E Banker or L.E. Seanie Fitzpatrick or L.E. Bertie

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      • #18
        Let's not forget L.E. Biffo. You could even paint his ugly mug on the bows. dose'nt bear thinking about.

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        • #19
          You could paint it on the keel. You'd be reminded of him every time the bottom was scraped.


          Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
            You could paint it on the keel. You'd be reminded of him every time the bottom was scraped.
            Not even barnacles would grow there. He's so poisionous he'd most likely eat through the keel.

            I,ve heard of the Irish Rover, God save us from the Offaly Rover.

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            • #21
              It doesnt have to be past presidents,this was a suggestion to put people thinking,could just as easily be after rivers,ports,patriots,famous Irish seafarers/inventors etc etc.There is nothing wrong as such with the existing system,perhaps its time for a change, develope a theme to reflect going foward as opposed to the mythstical past.If tradition was fixed and final then Clonmel,Mulligar,Griffith,Clancy etc would still be open for business.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Flintstone View Post
                We have a tradition going back since the corvettes arrived. We are a long way from exhausting names in Irish mythology. The names are non-sectarian, non political, non religious and unlikely to cause offence to anyone in this nation of people looking for a reason to phone Joe Duffy. FFS if it ain't broke don't fix it.
                The system has arrived at some of the worst named naval vessels anywhere. Eithne? Ffs, absolute Cac.

                Rivers, towns, counties. Anything but Fidelma.

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                • #23
                  Irish Lights dipped into the same pond for Gruanaile.no prob there,however Customs went for (translated) Surveyor and Vigilent ,the boats havent sunk for the break with tradition (fair enough they are very small).Who actually decides in any event,are the public who are paying for the ships canvassed.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by danno View Post
                    Irish Lights dipped into the same pond for Gruanaile.no prob there,however Customs went for (translated) Surveyor and Vigilent ,the boats havent sunk for the break with tradition (fair enough they are very small).Who actually decides in any event,are the public who are paying for the ships canvassed.
                    Not quite true.
                    ILS recycled an old name, as has been their tradition. The names Ierne, Isolda, Isaalt, and Grainuaile have been used since the service begun. The current ship is the third Granuaile.
                    "Suirbheir" is a rank formerly used by customs and excise the Other boat is called "Faire" or lookout, another historic rank, no longer in use. The organisation never had cutters before, so a new tradition was created.
                    I notice the Gardai don't bother naming their boat. On AIS it only shows up as GWU1.


                    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                    • #25
                      So JJ has "issues" with Eithne and Fidelma tell us more, you're among friends here, we won't tell anyone, honest.

                      regards
                      GttC

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                      • #26
                        The whole ""If it ain't broke don't fix it" attitude is responsible for a lot of problems for the DF, why not break with the norm just once and see if it works??, why not name them after famous Irish naval personnel???, e.g St. Brendan, Francis Beaufort or John Barry??
                        "Men are at war with each other because each man is at war with himself." -Francis Meehan.

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                        • #27
                          Personally I would like the ships to be named after someone who helped secured Irish independence Wolfe Tone is a great example he is regarded as the father of Irish republicism but he was also a protestant.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Socrates View Post
                            The whole ""If it ain't broke don't fix it" attitude is responsible for a lot of problems for the DF, why not break with the norm just once and see if it works??, why not name them after famous Irish naval personnel???, e.g St. Brendan, Francis Beaufort or John Barry??
                            The danger with breaking with tradition is that politicians might get their hands on the process. The result will be ships called after politicians or political hangers on. God forbid.

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                            • #29
                              PVs are always going to be named after women. Auxliaries after men......

                              I think enough time has evolved to go back to using the corvettes names for the new class of OPVs

                              Eithne and some of the others may seem like horrible names but once you've served on the ships you think of the names in a different light, and remember them for the time spent living in them, hard to understand for some perhaps.
                              Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by tomh903 View Post
                                Personally I would like the ships to be named after someone who helped secured Irish independence Wolfe Tone is a great example he is regarded as the father of Irish republicism but he was also a protestant.
                                So would you have our ships called after Freemasons?

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