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Originally posted by danno View PostCould start with public service staff and see how it goes.
HSE have the same
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Originally posted by DeV View PostYes but overseas won't/shouldn't come until standards and numbers improveWhat are you cackling at, fatty? Too much pie, that's your problem.
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Originally posted by DeV View PostTrue but their is absolutely no need to send the vast majority of the RDF overseasWhat are you cackling at, fatty? Too much pie, that's your problem.
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Originally posted by DeV View PostTrue but their is absolutely no need to send the vast majority of the RDF overseas'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html
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Originally posted by Flamingo View PostWell, maybe not all at the same time...
There are 9500 in the PDF (AC & NS go overseas too).
There is therefore max 6% of the PDF overseas at any 1 time, absolute max 18% if you take into account form up and leave but realistically your probably talking around 10%.
Factor in the pay cuts (so lads want to get overseas to get more money) and the fact that most other ranks have to go overseas x amount of time in order to renew their contracts.
The pinch points are likely to be the likes of drivers, mechanics, engineers & tradesmen, IT personnel and medics.
There are plenty of jobs at home that RDF personnel could assist with:
Medics (and MOs) could do pre-meds and medicals at weekends
Drivers could do duty driver, assist on ops, ATCA, ATCP etc
Duty sparks etc
Setting up camps for ex's etc
Specialist guidance for IT, enginerring works etc
Duties etccLast edited by DeV; 11 February 2015, 13:31.
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So there would be plenty of "back-office" type tasks for RDF? Of course, although vital, they might not have the same pull as an overseas tour. Mind you, I can see your point about the PDF (for whom it is the day-job, after all) not being keen on the day-boys doing the good stuff while the PDF get to do stag on a barracks.Last edited by Flamingo; 11 February 2015, 14:30.'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html
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Originally posted by DeV View PostWell there are less than 420 overseas at the moment (approx 50 of them (probably all officers) are in longer term appointments of 12 months). Then if Ireland is a member of an EU battlegroup you can add approx 180 to that.
There are 9500 in the PDF (AC & NS go overseas too).
There is therefore max 6% of the PDF overseas at any 1 time, absolute max 18% if you take into account form up and leave but realistically your probably talking around 10%.
Factor in the pay cuts (so lads want to get overseas to get more money) and the fact that most other ranks have to go overseas x amount of time in order to renew their contracts.
The pinch points are likely to be the likes of drivers, mechanics, engineers & tradesmen, IT personnel and medics.
There are plenty of jobs at home that RDF personnel could assist with:
Medics (and MOs) could do pre-meds and medicals at weekends
Drivers could do duty driver, assist on ops, ATCA, ATCP etc
Duty sparks etc
Setting up camps for ex's etc
Specialist guidance for IT, enginerring works etc
Duties etcc"He is an enemy officer taken in battle and entitled to fair treatment."
"No, sir. He's a sergeant, and they don't deserve no respect at all, sir. I should know. They're cunning and artful, if they're any good. I wouldn't mind if he was an officer, sir. But sergeants are clever."
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Originally posted by danno View PostThe only employment protection show in town is for regulars as set out in Dev's post above.
We don't need employment protection, we need say an additional 3-4 days unpaid annual leave for those who complete annual training / a course. Subject to min 1 month notice from the DF, agreement of employer, certification of attendance by DF. That would give an actual benefit, I could for example do a 2 week minibus course, using my 3 day unpaid RDF leave (employer saves 3 days wages) and 7 days annual leave.
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That is wrong; employment protection is needed. There is no serious benefit unless you can qualify in something the DF needs (a long course ) or come prequalified/( or pre-experienced, for those fields where no formal qual exactly matches, like IT )"Are they trying to shoot down the other drone? "
"No, they're trying to fly the tank"
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