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  • Originally posted by Rhodes View Post
    I know a few lads doing it. The money isn't great at all as its often claimed to be in the armed private security sector. They would of been better of staying in the Army.
    There's their first problem there. Those with naval experience do better than all the others.


    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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    • There's their first problem there. Those with naval experience do better than all the others.
      On top of a CPOs pension, I reckon you could live on it.

      Wonder how you adress a private security contractor with a DSM..bloody cheek of him, bleeding cook !
      Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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      • I know a lad doing it as well - he does security from from the UAE down to Kenya then flies back and does it all again. Pretty boring but he's making decent money.

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        • Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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          • Who said our ships were unsuitable?

            OPVs take up counter piracy duties
            Just over two months after moving off station in the Mozambique Channel, SAS Isaac Dyobha finds herself back as the lead vessel for Operation Copper, the ongoing tri-nation counter-piracy tasking off Africa’s lower east coast.

            The OPV took over the duty from the Valour class frigate, SAS Isandlwana, earlier this month and will be joined by another OPV - SAS Galeshewe - before month end.

            Both Isandlwana and Isaac Dyobha were part of the August/September Exercise Oxide with France off the coast of the Mozambican capital of Maputo.

            Asked why Galeshewe was also being moved into the Mozambique Channel, SA Navy spokesman Captain Jaco Theunissen said “two vessels can obviously patrol a lot more sea area than a single one”.

            The Channel deployment will be the second for both OPVs, refurbished to patrol vessel standard by SA Shipyards (SAS) in Durban, after their initial classing as Warrior strikecraft. The strikecraft were the sharp point of the SA Defence Force as the Minister Class.

            Theunissen said Isandlwana’s time on station was “routine” but would not be drawn on whether the deployment of two SAN vessels was in any way influenced by the ending of the monsoon season which has seen an increase in pirate activity off the Horn of Africa.

            Last month European Union Naval Force (EU Navfor) operation commander, Rear Admiral Bob Tarrant, warned there was still “a clear and present danger” from pirates off the Somali coast following an attack on a Very Large Crude Carrier (VLCC) by armed pirates in a skiff, some 230 miles offshore.

            Only one South African Navy vessel, the supply ship SAS Drakensberg, has been an active part of a pirate interdiction operation since the three nation Southern African Development Community (SADC) partnership came into being. She served as a stopper allowing EU Navfor vessels to apprehend a suspected pirate vessel attempting to escape via the Mozambique Channel.


            South Africa, via its air force and navy, is the major contributor to the SADC counter piracy operation along with Mozambique and Tanzania, stationing ships and aircraft in the Mozambique Channel.
            Just over two months after moving off station in the Mozambique Channel, SAS Isaac Dyobha finds herself back as the lead vessel for Operation Copper, the ongoing tri-nation counter-piracy tasking off Africa’s lower east coast. The OPV took over the duty from the Valour class frigate, SAS Isandlwana, earlier this month and will be joined […]



            SAS GALESHEWE


            Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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            • not necessarily aimed at Modern Pirates off the coast of Somalia but more for conducting boarding operations on non compliant ships in line with UN resolutions in the Gulf:

              RGJ

              ...Once a Rifleman - Always a Rifleman... Celer et Audax

              The Rifles

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              • Good drills.At least they have more than just pistols if the shit hits the fan!
                "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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                • Originally posted by apod View Post
                  Good drills.At least they have more than just pistols if the shit hits the fan!
                  Is that a criticism of Irish boarding parties? It is the Irish position that infantry assault rifles in the narrow confines of a ship, boat or yacht are not the optimum weapon. The pistol is easier to use and doesn't have the range to travel through several bulkheads, hitting God knows who.

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                  • No.It's a criticism of Irish Defence spending.The lack of which has confined our NBT's to using pistols for all scenarios no matter the threat.Infantry assault rifles are not ideal.A 9mm SMG like an MP5 would be ideal.But the f*****s in the dept wont finance it.
                    "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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                    • Nonsense.


                      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                      • Who needs a NBT with an MP5 when you have the ARW
                        It was the year of fire...the year of destruction...the year we took back what was ours.
                        It was the year of rebirth...the year of great sadness...the year of pain...and the year of joy.
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                        • moving arms from one command, unit or sub unit to another is not and never has been a DoD decision. If the NS don't want MP5s, then they will stay with pistols.
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                          GttC

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                          • Originally posted by apod View Post
                            No.It's a criticism of Irish Defence spending.The lack of which has confined our NBT's to using pistols for all scenarios no matter the threat.Infantry assault rifles are not ideal.A 9mm SMG like an MP5 would be ideal.But the f*****s in the dept wont finance it.
                            If the NS wanted SMGs they'd have them, compared to the costs of ships/whatever they'd cost **** all. It's a policy decision not a finance decision.
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                            • Originally posted by The real Jack View Post
                              If the NS wanted SMGs they'd have them, compared to the costs of ships/whatever they'd cost **** all. It's a policy decision not a finance decision.
                              MP5 alovely weapon although nowadays gone out of fashion due to lack of penetration with modern Body armour, I think, although In wou;ld have no problem carrying one,

                              Just a question why are shotguns , No not a double barrell , considered, also why not shotguns on CIT escorts , much safer for public if shoot out occurs in Thomastown etc and at 50 Yds which is about three times the width of the average small town street,

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                              • Originally posted by BANDIT View Post
                                MP5 alovely weapon although nowadays gone out of fashion due to lack of penetration with modern Body armour, I think, although In wou;ld have no problem carrying one,

                                Just a question why are shotguns , No not a double barrell , considered, also why not shotguns on CIT escorts , much safer for public if shoot out occurs in Thomastown etc and at 50 Yds which is about three times the width of the average small town street,
                                Police used to carry shotguns in Stroke City...to shoot the nasty improvised parachute floaty things (drogue bombs) being dropped from the city walls.

                                They weren't really for much else...the bombers...had they hung around would have been met with a hail of 5.56 AP.
                                'History is a vast early warning system'. Norman Cousins

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