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Originally posted by DeV View PostExactly, I assume the report is (at least) restricted which is why it is not available to the public.
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Originally posted by danno View PostIn fairness the AC are neither unique nor innovative regarding restrictions on reports.Do the rounds of State Orgs,none make all internal reports fully public without any redaction.
of the Aircraft, They had mysteriously disappeared never to turn up again. So we just blamed the Brits.
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Originally posted by The real Jack View PostYou cannot compare the powers of the AAIU to those of the Garda ombudsman. If the AAIU had similar powers this would not be happening.
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Originally posted by danno View PostI am not comparing powers of the aaiu wrt Garda Ombudsman,just highlighting that these are independant bodies whose reports are not internal reports such as a court of inquiry which under A5 is confidential.Last edited by The real Jack; 18 March 2013, 00:44.Everyone who's ever loved you was wrong.
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Originally posted by danno View PostI am not comparing powers of the aaiu wrt Garda Ombudsman,just highlighting that these are independant bodies whose reports are not internal reports such as a court of inquiry which under A5 is confidential.
Not that it matters anyway as it seems some if the key players in the operation at that time were not called in and questioned.
Wa it true that written statements were Also given by some? And that questions were put to them in writing in advance?
Sounds like they really wanted to get to the bottom of the systemic failure alright!
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Personaly I think that this reflects badly, not only on the Air Corps but on the Defence Forces in general. The IAC is a CORPS of the Irish Defence Forces not a standalone organisation.
Who provided aviation expertise to the CoI? The organisation under scrutiny???? Should this be a non aligned board, ie Army and Navy, assisted by a non IAC aviation expert (selected by the Army or Navy!!). In my opinion this crap again and again and again does nothing but expose IAC crews not only to accidents but to ultimate blame from their superiors when shit goes wrong. Don't they see that!! They will always be the scape goat!!!!
At the end of the day the IACs failing is the entire DFs failing. CoS, take control for God sake, there your personnel!
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It's also a government failing. Just as the IAC is an arm of the DF, the DF is an arm of the State. It should not be a closed shop. When an organisation as small as the IAC self scrutinises and disciplines there's bound to be a certain amount of covering each others arses. Failure to impose control is a failure at departmental level.
All the while Shatter is off in Israel passing off personal political views as state policy.
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