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  • #16
    Danno as far as I know you get the same training as the NMCI civlians which is an unlimited officers ticket I think.
    Also sean according to the DF website they do! http://www.military.ie/careers/reser...alist-officers

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    • #17
      Not too familiar with STCW 95, however NS dack cadets have in the past got their initial seatime on a combination of NS and Merchant vessels(over 3000 T).
      However the type of activity the NS vessels normally engage in is more similar to that of a vessel over 3000T. Smaller vessels would not be at sea, for the prolonged periods normally seen by NS vessels. Most would be transiting for no longer than 2 days between ports.


      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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      • #18
        Thanks for that,I reckon its more so a long intercon passage that is more imp than seatime as such,otherwise trawler skippers would also qualify,all thigs being equal.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by danno View Post
          Thanks for that,I reckon its more so a long intercon passage that is more imp than seatime as such,otherwise trawler skippers would also qualify,all thigs being equal.

          By the same reasoning, skippers on OSVs wouldn't nead any more that a trawler skipper ticket, but all have unlimited tickets.
          How often would a trawler based in Donegal visit Chile/Hong Kong/Estonia/Boston


          Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
            By the same reasoning, skippers on OSVs wouldn't nead any more that a trawler skipper ticket, but all have unlimited tickets.
            How often would a trawler based in Donegal visit Chile/Hong Kong/Estonia/Boston
            "all things being equal"

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            • #21
              How often would a trawler based in Donegal visit Chile/Hong Kong/Estonia/Boston
              The way fisheries restrictions are shaping up Trawler skippers will be lucky to have a job and could well end up in any of the above working a fish processing plant!!!
              Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Seanachie View Post
                The way fisheries restrictions are shaping up Trawler skippers will be lucky to have a job and could well end up in any of the above working a fish processing plant!!!
                It will be interesting to see the small print of the agreement reached in Brussels yesterday. On the face of it, it could be a good deal.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Seanachie View Post
                  The way fisheries restrictions are shaping up Trawler skippers will be lucky to have a job and could well end up in any of the above working a fish processing plant!!!
                  Thinking along same lines,according to I Times Minister Coveney has secured a TAC of 250m for us.
                  If you take into account the cost of the NS,new OPVs,BIM,Marine Inst,SFPA and fish components of det and NMCI plus the CASAs more must be spent than what it produces and an "fish protection/conservation" industry which prob has more fulltimers than persons fishing has grown up over the years.
                  Other costs are pier and harbour expenditure and 50m annual CG heli bill which was commissioned at behest of fishing families.
                  Is fishing really viable or is it a magnet fo state funds and the preserve of vested interests.

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                  • #24
                    Like farming, the way we fish in this country is unsustainable as a profitable industry. Every coastal sea dog wants his own boat, fishing for the same fish that does not provide good return for the cost of catching.
                    I spoke to a man recently who commuted 80 miles during makerel season daily, to fish in his tiny boat. The cost of his commute soon wiped out any profit he made. However he was happy to do so at a loss, and make up the balance of his annual income in the dole office.


                    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                    • #25
                      Maybe the "something for nothing" mentality at play.Could our entire TAC be fished by a dozen or so large boats with an inspector on board to monitor matters,the costs otherwise are completely daft.FOCN may be of similiar view with his MERC initiative to give the NS a viable role away from fishing.
                      This question/issue might be a good topic for somebody in the NS doing their senior C&S for their thesis.

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                      • #26
                        SFPA has managed to remove any potential market for illegally caught fish in this state. However quota targets and net size etc still need to be policed for a while yet.
                        However no point becoming another single use agency. Diversification is the key. for the NS and the fishermen too.


                        Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                        • #27
                          Fair enough, how long more can present set up last based on clapped out boats(nearly all used imports) and low wages.
                          There has to be a hint of self service amongst the agencies which encourage fishing,how many of those would (or send their own kids) out on sim boats on sim T&C.
                          Smacks of the Land Commission of old expecting people to survive on 20 acre farms.Something seriously wrong if ,as you will find and see,that the wages of the shore based agencies are far superior to those of the av fisherman.Having limited scrappage schemes only prolongs the problem.Nothing funny when a crew goes down with a boat.

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                          • #28
                            Hmm true sorry lads were getting a bit off topic here! I'm curious about the specialist officers section of the DF website under navy reserve it says if you are a bridge watchkeeper in the MN you are elegible for direct reserve commission is this still in effect (was thinking of going into the merchant navy then joining NSR in a few years)

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                            • #29
                              A lot will depend on where you career is at.To be useful you wil have to have a command/exec off on a locally based vessel so your quals will be current.The very few/rare local positions that do arise will be chased down by NS officers coming out into FLR.
                              Also bear in mind that the last thing,at that stage,will be further marine work in your spare time as you may well have a family to cater for.Good luck with your career in any event.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Jack.s View Post
                                Hmm true sorry lads were getting a bit off topic here! I'm curious about the specialist officers section of the DF website under navy reserve it says if you are a bridge watchkeeper in the MN you are elegible for direct reserve commission is this still in effect (was thinking of going into the merchant navy then joining NSR in a few years)
                                Be advised that there is an upper age limit to joining the RDF and it takes 4 years to achieve a suitable watchkeeping ticket. Can you point me towards the link where it says that? I thought the only DE accepted were engineer officers, and that was in the Naval Service, not Reserve.


                                Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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