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  • Apparantly there was a DF clothing conference in Dublin today for all the PDF CQ's.New kit was on show.Looks like i was on the money about supplied items not always being the same as what is on the tender.Smock upper pockets DO have zips but they are on the sides not horizontal.Pocket flaps are just for show.DPM fleece,norgie , shirt and Driflo all on show.
    So i have been reliably informed.
    "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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    • Originally posted by Hello Alaska View Post
      You do know that's not the issued body armour don't you?
      It used to be.That was the second type of DPM body armour cover we had(Circa2003).Issued in Kosovo etc.It had a few mods from the original 1999 Ptn DPM one which was exactly the same design as the old OG one. Differences were a velcro- in lumbar pad inside.A black mesh liner, a pocket on the lower back.A large box type chest pocket with a long strip of velcro across the upper chest for a nametag.Also it had epalluates(sic).
      There was also a waistcoat type DPM flakker on trial with the NCOTW but never issued.
      Last edited by apod; 13 March 2010, 17:23.
      "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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      • Originally posted by apod View Post
        Smock upper pockets DO have zips but they are on the sides not horizontal.Pocket flaps are just for show.
        What is the point of the flaps then? Is that another one of them making it look good for parade with no useful tactical use whatsoever?
        Don't stand there GAWPING, like you've never seen the hand of God BEFORE!!

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        • Originally posted by concussion View Post
          I don't see what you mean. It's the standard, not something toward which an attempt has been made to attain.
          yeah but noones told (AFAIK) to take them off and replace them with the standard ones
          I knew a simple soldier boy.....
          Who grinned at life in empty joy,
          Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
          And whistled early with the lark.

          In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
          With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
          He put a bullet through his brain.
          And no one spoke of him again.

          You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
          Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
          Sneak home and pray you'll never know
          The hell where youth and laughter go.

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          • Originally posted by Buck View Post
            yeah but noones told (AFAIK) to take them off and replace them with the standard ones
            Indeed. Let's ignore regulations till someone catches us...


            Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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            • They are probably like the arktis pockets.

              The flap does indeed open up a top pocket and the side zip opens another pocket that is behind the afore-mentioned pocket.
              It is only by contemplation of the incompetent that we can appreciate the difficulties and accomplishments of the competent.

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              • Originally posted by Bam Bam View Post
                They are probably like the arktis pockets.

                The flap does indeed open up a top pocket and the side zip opens another pocket that is behind the afore-mentioned pocket.
                you reckon? that sounds fairly good actually! but do you think the accountants would think so?

                "oh dear, another tiny bit of material for a pocket? That would probably cost up to four billion per unit, cant be cost effective!!"

                I knew a simple soldier boy.....
                Who grinned at life in empty joy,
                Slept soundly through the lonesome dark,
                And whistled early with the lark.

                In winter trenches, cowed and glum,
                With crumps and lice and lack of rum,
                He put a bullet through his brain.
                And no one spoke of him again.

                You smug-faced crowds with kindling eye
                Who cheer when soldier lads march by,
                Sneak home and pray you'll never know
                The hell where youth and laughter go.

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                • As long as the shirts coming on issue soon are better than the current batch.

                  The current 2008 batch fit better on the body. (What was a small is now a medium). The problem with them however is the sleeves are stupidly short and cannot be worn fully down without looking like a special person.

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                  • Originally posted by cooley View Post
                    As long as the shirts coming on issue soon are better than the current batch.

                    The current 2008 batch fit better on the body. (What was a small is now a medium). The problem with them however is the sleeves are stupidly short and cannot be worn fully down without looking like a special person.

                    That must be just your shirt
                    Don't stand there GAWPING, like you've never seen the hand of God BEFORE!!

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                    • Originally posted by Bam Bam View Post
                      They are probably like the arktis pockets.

                      The flap does indeed open up a top pocket and the side zip opens another pocket that is behind the afore-mentioned pocket.
                      That would make sense but if you look at the tender DOC it does not include any new pockets.Just adjustments to the current ones.

                      Originally posted by Buck View Post
                      you reckon? that sounds fairly good actually! but do you think the accountants would think so?

                      "oh dear, another tiny bit of material for a pocket? That would probably cost up to four billion per unit, cant be cost effective!!"

                      Believe it or not the most expensive item you can put on any garment is a zip.They got rid of the pitzips that were on the trial wetgear a few years ago because of this.Now we will have a total of six on the new smocks.Oh,and three onj the pants.


                      Originally posted by cooley View Post
                      As long as the shirts coming on issue soon are better than the current batch.

                      The current 2008 batch fit better on the body. (What was a small is now a medium). The problem with them however is the sleeves are stupidly short and cannot be worn fully down without looking like a special person.
                      I still have two of those shirts still in plastic in my locker.Cant wear them.Gonna swap em out when the new gear comes in.
                      "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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                      • Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
                        Indeed. Let's ignore regulations till someone catches us...
                        Try finding a DFR that even mentions DPM (apart from the scales of issue)

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                        • Originally posted by Hello Alaska View Post
                          You do know that's not the issued body armour don't you?
                          Old issue as apod pointed out.

                          There's a lot of drama behind that guy who was wearing it tho, he's not in the RDF anymore!!

                          He used to bring in airsoft steyr magazines to put in his pouches to "spread them out"??
                          Last edited by spaceghetti; 5 March 2010, 01:28.

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                          • The DF could just go with this kind of shirt:



                            Velcro on the outside of the shoulder pockets

                            Or something along those lines anyways
                            Last edited by spaceghetti; 5 March 2010, 02:31.

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                            • Originally posted by paul View Post
                              Which your not meant to be alowed to wear.
                              I know you're not, but i'm saying that won't stop them from making it. And it also won't stop some people from buying it and wearing it anyways.

                              Same as the nametags and rank markings. Which i saw a LOT of guys wearing during the assessment last year. Practically everyone from the Eastern Brigade had them i'd say, (and that includes Pte's, NCO's and Officers)

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                              • Originally posted by amurph0 View Post
                                Practically everyone from 62 Bn had them i'd say, (and that includes Pte's, NCO's and Officers)
                                Fixed that for you.

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