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  • Originally posted by Fantasia View Post
    I wonder if the "former middle-ranking officer who also served with the UN in Lebanon" was the one I am thinking of who has become a security expert based on shag all military service and 1 trip overseas. I suppose he needed a new career after he ran out of his old one after creative research
    Careful now. He likes to sue.
    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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    • Originally posted by na grohmití View Post
      Careful now. He likes to sue.
      I have no idea who you are talking about

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      • Young Irish Jews also go and do their military service in Israeli. so a certain level of Irish speaker not that hard to recruit.
        I sincerely hope Irish Officers were not that silly to think they could get away with speaking Irish to fool Jews in the Leb, Congo was a different matter

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        • It was a cock story then and it’s still a story that’s full of shite now,

          I’ve a few Leb trips and we never had the need to use Irish over the radio. If we needed to send classified information we had slidex and griddle.
          Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
          Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
          The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
          The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
          The best lack all conviction, while the worst
          Are full of passionate intensity.

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          • Originally posted by hedgehog View Post
            It was a cock story then and it’s still a story that’s full of shite now,

            I’ve a few Leb trips and we never had the need to use Irish over the radio. If we needed to send classified information we had slidex and griddle.
            +1. 3 Trips and the only Irish I ever heard was the Tannoy in Shamrock and the orders on parades.
            "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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              • Originally posted by Rhodes View Post
                From some time next year, the Finnish will be withdrawing from the Irish-Finn Battalion and increasing their contingent in the Force Commander Reserve (FCR) with the French, where they already have a Company.

                It will be interesting to see if there will now be a full Irish Battalion overseas for the first time since 2012, if the Government/DoD will allow it.
                The mini-minister has made his first comment on the Finnish withdrawal from the Irish-Finn Battalion.

                Finland has announced earlier this year that its current national mandate for participation in the Irish-Finnish Battalion in UNIFIL will end on 31 December 2018 and will not be renewed. Finland will therefore withdraw from Irish/Battalion by the end of the year. Ireland is committed to continuing participation in the UNIFIL mission and is currently considering the options that are available. These include the option to backfill positions by deploying additional Irish personnel. Another option is to identify a partner country to replace the Finnish contingent and discussions are on-going in this regard.
                Hopefully its the first option.

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                • Originally posted by Rhodes View Post
                  The mini-minister has made his first comment on the Finnish withdrawal from the Irish-Finn Battalion.



                  Hopefully its the first option
                  .
                  Where would we get the equipment that the Finns will pull out ? Although I heard that there's an option of leasing it from them.

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                  • Originally posted by terrier View Post
                    Where would we get the equipment that the Finns will pull out ? Although I heard that there's an option of leasing it from them.
                    There should be enough Mowags for the outpost even with the refurb program.
                    Armoured Scanias due to be delivered this year will fill that gap.
                    Not much else the Finns have that cant be replaced.

                    The leasing option is interesting. Might embarrass the Government enough to put in an order for more Mowags but unlikely.

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                    • Originally posted by Rhodes View Post
                      There should be enough Mowags for the outpost even with the refurb program.
                      Armoured Scanias due to be delivered this year will fill that gap.
                      Not much else the Finns have that cant be replaced.

                      The leasing option is interesting. Might embarrass the Government enough to put in an order for more Mowags but unlikely.
                      We use their comms equipment. ( and the saunas )

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                      • Don't forget we wont just be taking over the camp but the post the Finns manned also .

                        Don't worry.There is no way they will leave the saunas behind.Or the PX.
                        "Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.

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                        • Originally posted by terrier View Post
                          We use their comms equipment. ( and the saunas )
                          And they used ours before that. The lead unit provides comms.

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                          • Originally posted by Rhodes View Post
                            Originally posted by Rhodes View Post
                            From some time next year, the Finnish will be withdrawing from the Irish-Finn Battalion and increasing their contingent in the Force Commander Reserve (FCR) with the French, where they already have a Company.

                            It will be interesting to see if there will now be a full Irish Battalion overseas for the first time since 2012, if the Government/DoD will allow it.
                            The mini-minister has made his first comment on the Finnish withdrawal from the Irish-Finn Battalion.

                            Finland has announced earlier this year that its current national mandate for participation in the Irish-Finnish Battalion in UNIFIL will end on 31 December 2018 and will not be renewed. Finland will therefore withdraw from Irish/Battalion by the end of the year. Ireland is committed to continuing participation in the UNIFIL mission and is currently considering the options that are available. These include the option to backfill positions by deploying additional Irish personnel. Another option is to identify a partner country to replace the Finnish contingent and discussions are on-going in this regard.
                            Hopefully its the first option.
                            It's looking likely there will be an Irish-Czech Battalion before the end of the year.

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                            • From what I have heard the Czechs need a longer lead in time to be in a position to provide a Coy+.

                              The latest seems to be a full Irish BN of approx 440. Truth be told there is many duplicate appointments in the cells which aren't required reducing the need for officers and SNCOs.

                              Many rumours including a 3 Chalk 113 BN where the first chalk take over 6-50 prior to the Finn Contingent withdrawing mid November. A full Irish BN could be required for 113 and 114.

                              The leasing of comms equipment etc including SISUs is on the table.

                              Is there enough specialist personnel to cover a Coy+ in UNDOF and a BN in UNIFIL for 12 months in addition to all of the smaller missions. It will be difficult particularly if those who are only back a short time are targeted again.

                              It should be a lot clearer by August/September.
                              Last edited by Chuck; 8 June 2018, 07:06.

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                              • R&C for 113th Bn is for a 440 person full IRISHBATT.

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