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  • Islanders used to be pretty Common up in Norn Iron in the bad ole days.


    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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    • Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
      Islanders used to be pretty Common up in Norn Iron in the bad ole days.
      Certainly, ZG847 was one of them :wink: Flown by the AAC.

      Last edited by pmtts; 1 March 2008, 15:35.

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      • Hi there
        Norn Iron Islanders were routinely guarded behind closed doors, when they came to the Don.Casual access to them was discouraged.
        regards
        GttC

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        • Deputy Jack Wall asked the Minister for Defence if a decision has been made in regard to the replacement of the Air Corp’s Cessna fleet; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [26012/08]

          Deputy Bernard J. Durkan asked the Minister for Defence the extent to which it is intended to increase the strength of the Air Corp; if it is intended to upgrade or replace equipment including aircraft or other hardware; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [26334/08]

          Minister for Defence (Deputy Willie O’Dea): I propose to take Questions Nos. 132 and 239 together.

          As Minister for Defence I am delighted with the level of investment in new equipment for the Air Corps in recent years. The comprehensive investment programme included:· The delivery of eight Pilatus training aircraft at a total cost of €60m, inclusive of VAT.· Two light utility EC 135 helicopters acquired from Eurocopter S.A.S. at a cost of €12.8m, inclusive of VAT.· Six utility AW 139 helicopters acquired from AgustaWestland, Italy at a cost of €75m inclusive of VAT, the final two of which are scheduled for delivery in 2008. · A major mid life upgrade on the two Casa maritime patrol aircraft, at a cost of €16.5m, is underway – work on the first aircraft was completed in 2007, work on the second aircraft will be completed this year.The issue of the replacement of the Air Corps Cessna Fleet is under active consideration at present. The question of funding the replacement programme has to be considered in tandem with the overall equipment requirements of the Defence Forces generally and the funding available for this.

          The White Paper on Defence of February 2000 set out a figure of 10,500 personnel for the Permanent Defence Force comprising 930 for the Air Corps, 1,144 for the Naval Service and 8,426 for the Army as the strength sufficient to meet all foreseeable military requirements for the period comprehended by the White Paper (i.e. up to 2010). This remains the position. It is my intention to maintain the established Government policy of ongoing recruitment to the Defence Forces. This recruitment will continue to maintain the strength at the level set out in the White Paper.


          Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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          • The Cessna fleet will not be replaced. The squadron will be abolished. A couple more small helis will be bought instead, and a light tactical transport aircraft or two. And that is the end of the forecast.

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            • Target towing?


              Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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              • contract?

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                • Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
                  Target towing?
                  Something needs to be done, and soon. Barely saw a drogue this year and didn't get a single shooting run with one due to the weather - AC wouldn't fly unless the wind dropped under 15 kt. Grrrrr.
                  "Attack your attic with a Steyr....as seen on the Late Late Show..."

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                  • So do the Cessna pilots get all geared up with helmets and G-suits?

                    NTM
                    Driver, tracks, troops.... Drive and adjust!!

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                    • They used to fly in shirt & tie..


                      Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                      • Put target-towing winch pods on the PC-9s, like the Germans and Swiss do?

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                        • Cal
                          they wear a flying suit and a lifejacket...and Raybans...must have the 'Bans...
                          regards
                          GttC

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                          • Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
                            Cal
                            they wear a flying suit and a lifejacket...and Raybans...must have the 'Bans...
                            regards
                            GttC
                            Watching to much Top Gun.
                            Wise men speak because they have something to say, fools because they have to say something.sigpic

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                            • I remember one time in Baldonnel when a television crew came to interview a heli pilot. After he landed the Alouette, he got out, ducked out of sight of the camera, took off his helmet, then put on the peaked cap and - I kid you not - the white silk scarf, tucked into his flightsuit.

                              Who said Biggles was fiction....

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                              • Perhaps he was taking the piss

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