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  • #91
    There's more than just Irish SF soldiers names & photos up but i do agree with RGJ that they knew what they were entering.
    It's not the first time irish have entered this comp & it was filmed before & looks like this year too for a documentary.

    Perhaps there should have been better censorship but when they seen it being photographed/filmed they always could have asked to be
    edited out of shot. And i wouldn't be blaming the photographer as he/she seems to be from fort benning & it's not a base that wouldn't be
    used to special forces soldiers..
    Life's short, party naked :-)

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    • #92
      And there's no clear pic of either Irish soldier. Both are side shots with them wearing shades!
      Life's short, party naked :-)

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      • #93
        Originally posted by apod View Post
        I wonder would you be saying the same thing if it was UKSF that had been compromised RGJ??
        i'd say well done on the shooting, but they fcuked up by compromising themselves, and i can't see their respective units ever allowing them take part in such an event for that very reason.

        on that note - where does it actually say they were ARW?

        or have i missed that along the line somewhere?

        either way - well done on the shooting.
        RGJ

        ...Once a Rifleman - Always a Rifleman... Celer et Audax

        The Rifles

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        • #94
          Have another take of the uniform,on another site all participants used M110sa with Luepold mk4 optics.
          At start of thread some queries over apparent use by Irish team of FN for spotting,the recent pullout in An Cos verified this,well done to those who initially raised the query.

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          • #95
            It doesnt mention they are ARW but one picture shows an ARW officer wearing shades and green beret .The other members of the Irish army are just wearing black berets.

            The officer could have been accompanying the two competitors as an escort or coach? Merely speculating!!
            Train Hard Fight Easy!!!!

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Celtic-Warrior View Post
              It doesnt mention they are ARW but one picture shows ............................. and green beret.
              feckin RDF get everywhere nowadays.
              RGJ

              ...Once a Rifleman - Always a Rifleman... Celer et Audax

              The Rifles

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              • #97
                TBH, if the fella was that concerned about persec being photographed at a public event, could he not have travelled wearing a black beret? Then there'd be no fuss.
                Personally I don't think there's any harm in showcasing one's SF to a small degree so long as it doesn't compromise opsec. It gives the rest of us something to aspire to, being represented by our best men.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by SwiftandSure View Post
                  TBH, if the fella was that concerned about persec being photographed at a public event, could he not have travelled wearing a black beret? Then there'd be no fuss.
                  i agree mate, they could easily revert back to their 'old unit' for events like this, as the SF of many other nations do, to avoid any persec issues like this.
                  RGJ

                  ...Once a Rifleman - Always a Rifleman... Celer et Audax

                  The Rifles

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                  • #99
                    **** sake.

                    The Officer in question most likely wasn't even aware his photo was being taken, considering it was taken side on while he was obviously watching an event. How the **** is it his fault? Should he walk around with black tape over his eyes for the whole competition? Wear a pixelated balaclava perhaps?

                    Go over there wearing a black beret and post him back to his parent Unit while he's over there... The man has reached the pinnacle of his profession, to tell him he should pretend to be something he's not just because the Yanks dropped the ball is ridiculous. If the above was an Officer from CAG, DEVGRU, 22 SAS and had his photo published like that, there'd be a ****ing shit fit, included from posters on here.

                    The photographer and people involved in publishing the photo's dropped the ball, not the soldier. He didn't even know the poxy photo was being taken.

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                    • The sniper pair weren't from the ARW either, they're from a conventional Unit.

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                      • At the end of the day, its a photo of someone in the wing, watching a competition, ........big woop.

                        It's not like he's in the black kit swinging through windows.

                        I'm more impressed that the DF have ranked so highly in the competition. It's good to know that we don't have to be fighting wars all over world in order to achieve the skillset necessary to stand among the top tier of our international competitors.

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                        • Originally posted by SwiftandSure View Post
                          At the end of the day, its a photo of someone in the wing, watching a competition, ........big woop.

                          It's not like he's in the black kit swinging through windows.

                          I'm more impressed that the DF have ranked so highly in the competition. It's good to know that we don't have to be fighting wars all over world in order to achieve the skillset necessary to stand among the top tier of our international competitors.
                          i totally agree, and as i said before - great shooting - but the comment
                          "At the very least they should respect PERSEC and black out the ARW lads face."
                          was made by a serving member of the DFI and that is what we were responding to.

                          but i say again - the unit / soldiers themselves put themselves into this public event where they knew photos would be taken and details published on the internet - that's what happens in this competition.

                          it's not down to the event organisers to apply persec - the buck stops at the unit / soldiers concerned if it really is an issue.
                          RGJ

                          ...Once a Rifleman - Always a Rifleman... Celer et Audax

                          The Rifles

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                          • I'm sure if there was a problem with these photos someone if DFHQ could make a call to someone in fort benning and ask them to be removed...
                            Last edited by Big Al; 19 March 2012, 13:56.
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                            • Originally posted by Big Al View Post
                              I'm sure if there was a problem with these photos someone in DFHQ would have realised that entering such an event would no doubt compromise any individuals attending and therefore SF troops would not be authorised to take part.
                              fixed that for ya.

                              good shooting though.
                              RGJ

                              ...Once a Rifleman - Always a Rifleman... Celer et Audax

                              The Rifles

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                              • Originally posted by RoyalGreenJacket View Post
                                i totally agree, and as i said before - great shooting - but the comment was made by a serving member of the DFI and that is what we were responding to.

                                but i say again - the unit / soldiers themselves put themselves into this public event where they knew photos would be taken and details published on the internet - that's what happens in this competition.

                                it's not down to the event organisers to apply persec - the buck stops at the unit / soldiers concerned if it really is an issue.
                                Of course it is down to the organisers, especially if they're publishing photo's, to apply PERSEC.

                                What I'd most likely put it down to, is the lines getting blurred between how the US and the Irish do it. With their varying levels of SOF over there, different levels of PERSEC apply to different units. For instance, it's mostly only their Tier 1 unit's who don't have personal details released.

                                A mix up but it's nowhere near close to the soldier's fault. He didn't even know the photo was being taken.

                                Originally posted by Big Al View Post
                                I'm sure if there was a problem with these photos someone if DFHQ could make a call to someone in fort benning and ask them to be removed...
                                Last time I spoke to someone from the Press Office, they weren't even aware the competition had taken place.

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