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    The AMC are trying to get a specialist training programme off the ground, looks like they are making headway





    They are looking at commissioning 4 people annually into the RDF for 2 years (who will complete 2 weeks FTT while doing NCHD rotations) and then 3 years on a PDF commission (when they will do 7 weeks mil training). They will then complete at least 3 years in the PDF.


    Last edited by DeV; 9 August 2015, 19:40.

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      This would arguably be a bigger step, if approved. Would also mean an increase in the number of available MOs. Would also mean a cycling of fresh talent with up to date training ground through the Corps.
      "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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        It would be only targeting 2 new MOs????

        So courses are going to run with just 2 personnel on them. Should have gone min 5

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          Originally posted by DeV View Post
          It would be only targeting 2 new MOs????

          So courses are going to run with just 2 personnel on them. Should have gone min 5
          Oops. Didn't see that bit...
          "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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              These guys have an interesting website . Was checking out the news section http://www.ismm.ie/news.html and i see that the Medical Corps have delivered a GP training scheme , even if the intake seems small at only 2 . Looks like the DF is getting their act together.

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                Originally posted by Audax View Post
                These guys have an interesting website . Was checking out the news section http://www.ismm.ie/news.html and i see that the Medical Corps have delivered a GP training scheme , even if the intake seems small at only 2 . Looks like the DF is getting their act together.
                TBH it is a bit wasteful IMHO.

                We are so far understrength for MOs it is extremely dangerous. When they are running the programme more or less the same resources will more of less be tied up on 2 students as 5 (eg the lesson will still need an instructor). The programme of course could potentially be there being not enough existing MOs to supervise the 5 students.

                But it's the first time it's ever been done in fairness.

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                    Originally posted by Truck Driver View Post
                    Oops. Didn't see that bit...
                    It's also a 5 year programme (normal GP is 4 years) with little interaction with the DF in the first 2 years (seconded to and paid by HSE) (in fairness it's probably the only way around it, the DF is too small).

                    After the 5 years they have to give 3 years return for service.

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                      Including med school it is 10 years+.

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                        Originally posted by danno View Post
                        Including med school it is 10 years+.
                        Yes but I'm only talking about the training to become a GP

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                          It would be nice to see DF involvement in this kind of thing

                          The School of Medicine at University College Dublin hosted ‘SimWars’, a medical simulation competition for medical and nursing students in

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                            Originally posted by ancientmariner View Post
                            It depends on the ability to fully handle the ongoing problems of Hypoxemia and acidosis even after apparent CPR recovery. Sometimes 100% oxygen needs to be delivered with other medical procedures such as intubation. Depending on water temperature during immersion Core temperature remains a consideration for up to 48 hours. Having aid on a ship, say 50miles away, is probably a two hour waiting period. Caring for 70 crew for 10/12 weeks plus dealing with traumatised casualties presenting with post drowning symptoms and other mass problems needs a just in case philosophy. Keep away from the HSE. DOD should recruit a panel of willing temporary MD's for mission only appointments.
                            Trauma qualified doctors don't exist outside of hospitals. The DF don't have the doctors and the problem with doctors is that they won't work without all their supports in place. This would take at leasts a consultant and a team to run both shore and ship side. Not a runner.
                            Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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