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Dogwatch
20th February 2007, 19:49
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/upload/img_400/[(1549)-01-12-2005]driving.jpg
HMS Severn is alongside Cork City today (photographed in the Evening Echo).

ODIN
20th February 2007, 19:57
Why do i have to work tonight :(
Lets hope the crusties keep away

Goldie fish
20th February 2007, 20:36
Its not the crusties, but the "anti war" RSF that are the problem there.

ARA Libertad is due to visit Cork later in the year, Possibly June.

Michael Gilligan
20th February 2007, 21:52
Check out this link on Indymedia they are tripping over themselves tp protest about the visit of HMS Severn.

http://www.indymedia.ie/article/81065


Regards
Michael

Goldie fish
22nd February 2007, 00:20
Rain stopped play. Just shows their dedication to the cause when a bit of rain keeps the protesters away.

She leaves tomorrow.

Thorpe
22nd February 2007, 01:27
Looks fairly impressive along the quay side on the way into town tonight. Its well protected by the local Gardai

Michael Gilligan
22nd February 2007, 18:12
Delighted to hear that they did not show up I am really getting sick of all these anti-everything. They must lead unreal lives.

Michael

futurepilot
27th February 2007, 14:42
From the Indo today:
A guided missile frigate from the German Navy is to visit Dublin next month. The March visit by the FSG Augsburg, normally based at Wilhelmshaven, is the latest in a series by NATO navies, including warships from Britain and America. The 3680-ton frigate carries Harpoon anti-ship missiles, and Sea Sparrow and EAM surface-to-air missiles. It has a crew of 219.
http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/7372/dscf00189xk.jpg

discostu
13th March 2007, 15:31
Its not the crusties, but the "anti war" RSF that are the problem there.

ARA Libertad is due to visit Cork later in the year, Possibly June.



Yeah June, due to visit Galway and Dublin too.

Goldie fish
10th April 2007, 13:14
14 May 07 BNS Belgica A 962 Cork
This vessel is engaged in fisheries research, specifically Pelagic Calcification and Export of Carbonate production in Climate Change, on the Irish Continental shelf.

http://www.mil.be/navycomp/viewpic.asp?LAN=en&FILE=unittext&ID=410

17 Jun 07 ARA Libertad Q 2 Cork

http://www.astillero.gba.gov.ar/imagenes/fragatalibertad1.jpg

Goldie fish
10th April 2007, 13:24
The Irish Naval Service are doing some travelling this summer also, Including Canada, the Black Sea and the Baltic.

L.E.Orla
25 May 07 LE Orla P 41 Rotterdam ,Netherlands

L.E.Aisling
07 Jun 07 LE Aisling P 23 Oslo ,Norway
10 Jun 07 LE Aisling P 23 Aalborg ,Denmark
14 Jun 07 LE Aisling P 23 Gdansk ,Poland
18 Jun 07 LE Aisling P 23 Kiel ,Germany

L.E.Niamh
07 Jun 07 LE Niamh P 52 Oslo ,Norway
10 Jun 07 LE Niamh P 52 Copenhagen ,Denmark
14 Jun 07 LE Niamh P 52 Klaipeda ,Lithuania
18 Jun 07 LE Niamh P 52 Kiel ,Germany

L.E.Eithne
20 Jun 07 LE Eithne P 31 Toronto , Canada
26 Jun 07 LE Eithne P 31 Montreal , Canada
14 Sep 07 LE Eithne P 31 Bordeaux

L.E.Emer
06 Jul 07 LE Emer P 21 Zeebrugge, Belgium

L.E.Ciara
20 Jul 07 LE Ciara P 42 Zeebrugge, Belgium

L.E.Aoife
26 Jul 07 LE Aoife P 22 Malaga, Spain
03 Aug 07 LE Aoife P 22 Varna, Bulgaria
06 Aug 07 LE Aoife P 22 Constanta, Romania
12 Aug 07 LE Aoife P 22 Valletta, Malta

Apparently L.E. Roisin is minding the shop this summer...

mutter nutter
10th April 2007, 13:28
WOW, busy year for the NS, the crew of L.E.Aoife, Spain and Malta...lucky gits :)

Goldie fish
10th April 2007, 13:47
Don't forget the Black sea resorts too..

mutter nutter
10th April 2007, 14:12
Don't forget the Black sea resorts too..
:frown: ...question, is this an exceptionally busy forgin visit schdule, they seem to be sending ships further then normal and more of them, or do they do these every year?

Goldie fish
10th April 2007, 14:22
They do this every year. Malta (Valetta)has seen Irish Naval vessels almost every year since the early 80s. American Trips are almost annual, usually coincide with Paddys day. Kiel is annual, though its rare to see two ships go.

hedgehog
10th April 2007, 14:34
there used to be a regular re supply to the leb and to cyprus as well

do you sea dogs ever bring along a few Soldiers for inter services co operation

Goldie fish
28th April 2007, 18:45
Currently in Cork is the French Frigate "La Vallee", or to give it its full title, "Lieutenant de vaisseau Lavallée".
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/images/f-790-lavalle-DN-SC-92-03470.jpg

Another of the D'Estienne d'Orves (A69)class, a type often seen in Cork. This is the same ship type as the Argentinian ARA Guerrico, which was hit by small arms and 84mm fire during th eBattle for South Georgia during the Falklands war of 1982.

The type is due for retirement soon, having been in service since the early 70s. The single 100mm gun is mounted forward, immediately ahead of the large bridge. and the 375mm ASW rocket launcher is mounted on the deckhouse aft.
France still has considerable overseas interests and the D.Estienne D'Orves class share some of the duties involved. For such distant deployments they mount an MM.38 Exocet SSM on either side of the funnel. which confers some independent offensive capability. although such a small ship is intended to be dependent upon other vessels or aircraft for protection against a serious air or surface threat.

http://navy-ship.all-model.com/98/Untitled-3.jpg

A Creusot-Loire 100mm dual-purpose gun, Model 1968-11 (1x1)
B 20mm AA gun (2x1 )
C MM.38 Exocet SAM launchers (2x1 )
D 533mm torpedo tubes (2x2) for L3 ASW and L5 GP torpedoes
E Bofors 375mm ASW rocket launcher, Model 1954 (1x6)

Electronics
1 Thomson-CSF DUBA25 hull-mounted sonar
2 DRBN-32 navigation radar
3 DRBC-32E fire control radar
4 DRBV-51A search radar

This vessel is in service since October 1980
Crew:
7 officers
58 Senior Rates
24 Junior Rates

andy
28th April 2007, 22:01
is that French Frigate in Dublin at the moment ??

Goldie fish
29th April 2007, 01:26
is that French Frigate in Dublin at the moment ??


Which one?

moggy
29th April 2007, 13:28
Which one?

there is a similar class french frigate in Dubln 'LATOUCHE - TRIVILLE" same as one in cork
L.E. Emer is also there in attendance

Goldie fish
30th April 2007, 20:54
05 May 07 HNLMS Mercuur (Netherlands) A 900 Dublin (Torpedo support ship)
14 May 07 BNS Belgica (Belgium)A 962 Cork (Fisheries Research)
15 Jun 07 FS Meuse (France) A 607 Dublin (Tanker)
16 Jun 07 ARA Libertad Q 2 Galway
21 Jun 07 ARA Libertad Q 2 Dublin

It seems Libertad will now not be visiting Cork.

johnny no stars
7th May 2007, 13:50
anyone know anything about a submarine in dublin today? Spotted it coming into the bay at roughly midday-ish... got 2 pics on my phone but the zoom isn't great so you can only just about make out the submarine shape...

Goldie fish
7th May 2007, 13:55
Post them anyway.

johnny no stars
7th May 2007, 21:05
you can only just about make out the shape of the sub...

hptmurphy
7th May 2007, 22:37
Yup its a sub alright!

johnny no stars
8th May 2007, 09:43
nobody any ideas on who it was?

Goldie fish
18th May 2007, 21:51
14 May 07 BNS Belgica A 962 Cork
This vessel is engaged in fisheries research, specifically Pelagic Calcification and Export of Carbonate production in Climate Change, on the Irish Continental shelf.

http://www.mil.be/navycomp/viewpic.asp?LAN=en&FILE=unittext&ID=410



Currently in Cork...

Goldie fish
16th June 2007, 15:03
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0615/9news_av.html?2259474,null,230

ARA Fregata Libertad arrives off the west coast.

moggy
16th June 2007, 16:04
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0615/9news_av.html?2259474,null,230

ARA Fregata Libertad arrives off the west coast.

HMS Kent and FS Muese (french) in dublin port now

techman1
16th June 2007, 16:20
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0615/9news_av.html?2259474,null,230

ARA Fregata Libertad arrives off the west coast.

she leaves Galway Tuesday and arrives in Dublin on Thursday

Goldie fish
19th June 2007, 21:30
Defence Forces Press Office, DFHQ, Infirmary Road, Dublin 7
Date: Thursday 14 June 2007
Visit of Argentine Naval Vessel, the ARA Libertad:*
Admiral William Brown Remembered
*The Minister for Defence, the Argentine Chargé d’Affaires, Federico Guillermo Urrutia, the Chief of Staff of the Defence Forces, Lieutenant General Jim Sreenan and the Flag Officer Commanding the Naval Service, Commodore Frank Lynch will attend a Wreath Laying ceremony at the statue of Admiral William Brown at 11am on Friday 22nd of June, on Sir John Rogersons Quay, Dublin on the occasion of the visit to Ireland of the Argentinian Sail vessel “ARA Libertad”.
The Ceremony will commemorate the 150th anniversary of the death of Admiral Brown, the Foxford born founder of the Argentine Navy and will form part of a busy programme of events, including a Wreath Laying and Museum Opening Ceremony in Foxford on Sunday 17th of June.
On the visit of the Argentine Vessel, Lieutenant Commander Terry Ward of the Irish Naval Service says,
“‘ARA Libertad’ is a 94metre long, 3,000 Tonne, three-mast sail training vessel. The main mast is 54 metres in height, and the ship is a spectacular sight in full sail.”
“ARA Libertad” will dock in Galway from 16th to the 19th of June, in Dublin from the 21st to the 26th of June and will be open to the public for limited periods in both locations. The Commander in Chief of the Argentine Navy, Admiral Godoy, will be hosted by the Chief of Staff in McKee Barracks at 4.15pm on Thursday 21 June, where he will receive a 50 strong Naval Service Guard of Honour.
The Naval Service is providing a rare and excellent opportunity for members of the Media to capture footage of “ARA Libertad” in full sail from the “LE ROISIN” on Friday 15th of June. Details of all media events are listed below.

Further information on Admiral Brown and the Foxford connection can be found at:
http://local.mobhaile.ie/admiralbrownp/Home/tabid/9716/Default.aspx

Visit of “The Libertad” Summary of Events.
Time / Date...................Event...................... .......Location
Fri 15 June
9am – 4pm.....Press trip to view “ARA Libertad”.....Rosaveal Pier and Irish Coast

Sat 16 June
7am ..................“ARA Libertad” arrives Galway....Galway Harbour Quays

Sun 17 Jun
12.30pm ............/.....Wreath-Laying Ceremony....Foxford, Co. Mayo

1200am-5pm....Ship Open to Public.....................Galway Harbour Quays


Thur 21 June
7.30am ............“ARA Libertad” arrives Dublin......Sir John Rogersons Quay

4.15pm ....Admiral Godoy -Guard of Honour.........McKee Bks – Infirmary Rd

Fri 22 June
11.00am .........Wreath-Laying Ceremony
byMinister for Defence and Admiral Godoy ..........Statue of Admiral Brown at Sir John Rogersons Quay



Sun 24 June
12am-5pm .........Ship open to the public..............Sir John Rogersons Quay

moggy
19th June 2007, 22:09
nice one

hedgehog
19th June 2007, 22:14
what does the ARA stand for

ias
19th June 2007, 22:20
Armada Republic Argentina?

IAS

hedgehog
19th June 2007, 22:27
really

Goldie fish
19th June 2007, 22:37
Armada de la República Argentina

hedgehog
19th June 2007, 22:43
thanks

moggy
24th June 2007, 20:24
thanks

beautiful ship had a look on her this afternoon

also the escorted tour's of L.E. Roisin upper decks had the crew busy in dublin

Goldie fish
13th July 2007, 23:28
HMS Liverpool currently in cork.

However much more worth a look on the south channel of the Lee is the Biodiesel fuelled boat.

Curragh Plains
22nd July 2007, 21:11
Sorry about this guys could not find the thread for Foreign Ships visiting (thought I saw it in th epast on this site). In any vent spotted a vessels at Sir John Rogersons Quay, Dublin last week (17 July). Did not get to establish nationality but it was warship grey and a rather old vessel by the look of it. Anybody know anymore?

By happy coincidence was in Cadiz, Spain two weeks ago, the Libertad was moored alongside and open for visitors. Spoke to some of the crew who remembered their Irish visit with affection.

hedgehog
22nd July 2007, 21:39
It was either a Polish Vessel or a French one

if your really really really interested I can get the names

Victor
10th August 2007, 10:05
French Naval School at Sir John Rogerson Quay - 8 June 2007. Present were A748 Leopard, A749 Panthère, A750 Jaguar, A754 Tigre, A755 Lion, P674 D'Entrecasteux. The school is a regular sight in the summers, although some of the training ships are looking a little rough. A752 Guépard was on tour and visited Leith and Galway, but wasn't present in Dublin. The other ships in class are A751 Lynx and A753 Chacal.

Photos starting here: http://gallery.irishmilitaryonline.com/main.php?g2_itemId=3020

mikeym
10th August 2007, 18:33
Hms echo is scheduled to visit Waterford from august 22 to the 24th (subject to change).

golden rivet
18th August 2007, 20:46
what naval ship is in cork

Goldie fish
19th August 2007, 02:11
Spanish Fisheries Protection vessel. Converted stern trawler by the looks of it.

P61 Chirleu

hptmurphy
19th August 2007, 17:06
Patrol Craft
Chilreu offshore patrol vessel
Displacement: 2,100 tons full load
Dimensions: 67.8 x 11.02 x 4.66 meters (222.5 x 36 x 15 feet)
Propulsion: 1 diesel, 1 shaft, 2,460 bhp, 15 knots
Crew: 36
Armament: 2 12.7 mm MG
Former trawler acquired for fisheries patrol.

Number Name Year Homeport Notes
P61 Chirleu 1992 Ferrol Ex-Pescalonso

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/3223/buques2/p61.htm

Goldie fish
19th August 2007, 17:15
I'll post better photos later.
Reminded me a lot of Ferdia, only didn't stink of fish.

Test Pilot
19th August 2007, 19:55
Yes, she is a Fishery Protection Vessel. She has the fishery protection pennant on the aft st.bd side of the wheel house.

golden rivet
20th August 2007, 00:17
Yes, she is a Fishery Protection Vessel. She has the fishery protection pennant on the aft st.bd side of the wheel house. perfect for the job required no need for large weapons and by the look of it no stupid exec that we used to have worrying about rust streaks and what people would think even though we were tons heavier from painting to look good..

Test Pilot
20th August 2007, 21:13
perfect for the job required no need for large weapons and by the look of it no stupid exec that we used to have worrying about rust streaks and what people would think even though we were tons heavier from painting to look good..

That it, Paint everything! Hides a multitude. Deck fittings were seized, lights could not be opened or switches operated due to the amount of paint used.
But a time comes when the 'chipping hammers' would have to be used to clear the decks. Once wittnesed the bridge window being shattered when a stray hammer missed it's mark. Great windows for withstanding heavy seas, but useless against a tap from a chipping hammer!

Goldie fish
20th August 2007, 21:35
Eithne had much of its upper decks layers removed recently. She must be a few hundred tonnes lighter in the water now.

Photos of Chilreu

http://gallery.irishmilitaryonline.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3055&g2_serialNumber=1

http://gallery.irishmilitaryonline.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3058&g2_serialNumber=1

http://gallery.irishmilitaryonline.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3061&g2_serialNumber=1

http://gallery.irishmilitaryonline.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3064&g2_serialNumber=1

http://gallery.irishmilitaryonline.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3067&g2_serialNumber=1

http://gallery.irishmilitaryonline.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3070&g2_serialNumber=1

I wonder if the avove vessel was ever arrested by the Irish N.S when she operated as a civilian trawler? Anyone remember arresting the stern trawler "Pescalonso"?

hptmurphy
20th August 2007, 22:36
Tons heavier maybe on some ships but I rememeber a Bosun on Eithne who had a fetish regarding 'sugee' as oppossed to paint and we were the scrubbers of the NS as opposed to decorators.

have to say that Spanish stern trawlers were something of a rarity..the normal ones were standard type and all looked quite the same...My particular memories extend to the Grampian Admiral.

Worthy to note that most of the 'Spanies' we dealt with were actually 'Brit Spans' to adhere with the regulations at the time.This involved crewing regulations to include EU nationals as in the early part of the '80s , Spain wasn't an EU memeber state.

Bit like flags of convience.Hence the arrest rates were far higher than they are today..At the time a single ship could have more arrests than the whole service can make today..must dig out my diary again....I think by June of 1988 Eithne had in the region of twelve or so...and this included a three week refit and a weeks work up to exercises when we were proactive at the FP role.

Goldie fish
30th August 2007, 20:26
HMS Wesminister currently in Cork, with Merlin Helicopter embarked.

Brian McGrath
31st August 2007, 15:09
Hi Guys anyone got any pictures of HMS Westminster which is supposed to be in Cork at present.

Brian

Test Pilot
31st August 2007, 18:22
Hi Guys anyone got any pictures of HMS Westminster which is supposed to be in Cork at present.

Brian

Here you go Brian! She just came in this morning :biggrin:

goc132
31st August 2007, 18:28
Brilliant Test Pilot

Goldie fish
31st August 2007, 19:32
Here you go Brian! She just came in this morning :biggrin:

By this morning you mean yesterday? See Foreign Naval visits in FAQ. Photos to follow later.

Brian McGrath
31st August 2007, 21:03
WHAT!!!!!!! No guns or helicopter. Like it Test Pilot, Goldie I am sure will show us the real one.

pmtts
2nd September 2007, 16:46
Photo's of Westminster in Cork are on the net.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/frosty120/1288212003/

Goldie fish
3rd September 2007, 12:07
As promised.

http://gallery.irishmilitaryonline.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3112&g2_serialNumber=1

http://gallery.irishmilitaryonline.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3115&g2_serialNumber=1

http://gallery.irishmilitaryonline.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3118&g2_serialNumber=1

http://gallery.irishmilitaryonline.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3121&g2_serialNumber=1

http://gallery.irishmilitaryonline.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3124&g2_serialNumber=1

http://gallery.irishmilitaryonline.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3130&g2_serialNumber=1

thebig C
3rd September 2007, 12:54
Westminster could do with a paint job, and that Merlin looks a bit oversized, which is interesting, given that the Naval Service's new EPV will be about the same size as Westminster.

DeV
3rd September 2007, 18:02
Looks like HMS Westminster has seen better days.

hptmurphy
3rd September 2007, 22:23
Nothing a coat of paint wouldn't sort out.

moggy
15th September 2007, 11:34
Nothing a coat of paint wouldn't sort out.

FRENCH NAVAL FRIGATE 'DE GRASSE' IN DUBLIN PORT NOW OCEAN PIER
ALEXANDRA QUAY
BIG MAMA

Goldie fish
15th September 2007, 12:30
Wasn't De Grasse the Frigate that carried out the Pre Delivery Deck Landing Training of the Dauphin, all those years ago?

Three french Naval training vessels are also in cork this weekend. The usual type. Its been a long time since we saw something new from France.

golden rivet
15th September 2007, 14:26
:smile:
Wasn't De Grasse the Frigate that carried out the Pre Delivery Deck Landing Training of the Dauphin, all those years ago?

Three french Naval training vessels are also in cork this weekend. The usual type. Its been a long time since we saw something new from France.:smile: we carried out a lot of training on eithne off lorient with french test pilots dauphin was a yellow colour then...

moggy
15th September 2007, 16:05
yes very true - the a/corps pilots also were trained on Joan d'arc -i talked to some french sailors and pilot's who remembered the eithne training.'De Grasse' is 30 years old a beautful ship well armed -

Kieran
15th September 2007, 16:45
Anyone know anything about the french ships that were in cork yesterday?

Victor
15th September 2007, 20:59
FRENCH NAVAL FRIGATE 'DE GRASSE' IN DUBLIN PORT NOW OCEAN PIER
ALEXANDRA QUAY
BIG MAMA

It seems she is open for visits.

http://www.ambafrance.ie/article.php3?id_article=816
Visit of the French naval frigate "DE GRASSE".
The French naval frigate "DE GRASSE" will call at Dublin port between the 13th and the 17th of september 2007.

The "DE GRASSE" will be moored at Ocean Pier, Alexandra Quay, Dublin 1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FS_De_Grasse

Goldie fish
16th September 2007, 07:12
Anyone know anything about the french ships that were in cork yesterday?

Yes.

http://forum.irishmilitaryonline.com/showpost.php?p=178672&postcount=66

eelmonster
16th September 2007, 14:25
Nothing a coat of paint wouldn't sort out.

Absolutely, the Type-23 frigate is still a very impressive ship. It must be a tight squeeze getting the Merlin into that hangar.

Kieran
16th September 2007, 16:35
Yes.

http://forum.irishmilitaryonline.com/showpost.php?p=178672&postcount=66

Thanks Goldie. I had a feeling they might be training ships.

moggy
29th September 2007, 13:27
French Minesweeper 'andromede' Due In Dublin 02/10/7 @ 09:00 Hrs Also
German U-boat ( U-15 ) Due In Dublin 2/10/7 @ 15:00 Hrs
Anybody That Has The Day Off Would Get Great Picture Along The Liffey

hedgehog
29th September 2007, 16:40
they are parked at the harbour together as well

moggy
29th September 2007, 19:43
they are parked at the harbour together as well

Tied up hedgee? - tied up ( not parked) yes both supposed to be alongside each other sir John Rogersons quay opposite the ferryman pub

hedgehog
29th September 2007, 19:48
sorry I didnt know you tie up your boats :biggrin:

moggy
29th September 2007, 20:26
sorry I didnt know you tie up your boats :biggrin:

hedgee we are not talking buses here

hedgehog
29th September 2007, 20:32
I know I was only yanking your

sheet/ line/ roper/anchor

moggy
30th September 2007, 13:14
I know I was only yanking your

sheet/ line/ roper/anchor

thats ok

DaveOB
2nd October 2007, 16:46
USS McFaul (DDG-74) arrived in Cobh this morning.

moggy
3rd October 2007, 20:52
French Minesweeper 'andromede' Due In Dublin 02/10/7 @ 09:00 Hrs Also
German U-boat ( U-15 ) Due In Dublin 2/10/7 @ 15:00 Hrs
Anybody That Has The Day Off Would Get Great Picture Along The Liffey

French minesweper small looks like L.E.. fola
U-15 very small 24 crew on board you would have to look out for it
on the quay wall otherwise it would you will miss it

Victor
28th October 2007, 00:28
French minesweper small looks like L.E.. fola
U-15 very small 24 crew on board you would have to look out for it
on the quay wall otherwise it would you will miss itPhotos here: http://gallery.irishmilitaryonline.com/main.php?g2_itemId=1360&g2_page=6

Goldie fish
28th October 2007, 00:37
I just reshuffled them into the correct folder. Link duly edited.

thebig C
28th October 2007, 01:50
HMS Cattistock, a Royal Navy Hunt class mine countrmeasures vessel, berthed on Sir John Rogerson's Quay in Dublin today. This picture was taken in Malta a few years ago:

http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/images/hmscattistock4.jpg

LE Orla was also present.

Goldie fish
28th October 2007, 02:07
Tupperware navy.

moggy
15th November 2007, 21:04
Hnlms Rotterdam And Johan De Witt Due Ocean Pier DUBLIN Tomorrow
2 Big Mama's -- Dutch

ZULU
15th November 2007, 21:13
Sure is

http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/97C331CF-2A02-43B2-B002-F1628C8167DE/0/04107587.jpg

Goldie fish
15th November 2007, 22:10
Both of them?

Is there enough room?

ias
15th November 2007, 22:14
Maybe it's a sales promotion... :biggrin:

The real Jack
15th November 2007, 22:16
Maybe it's a sales promotion... :biggrin:

It'll be the most unsuccessful sales promotion ever!

Orion
15th November 2007, 22:23
Tupperware navy.


Hull material non-metal?

Goldie fish
15th November 2007, 22:31
Hull material non-metal?

On the Hunts yes. First class of minesweeper to use fibreglass hulls, which was first tried out on a TON type.

I see Johan de Witt is not due for Commissioning until Later this month. We could make them an offer.....
Its definitely a sales pitch. They are not on any "tour" of european ports. They both return to Den Helder for the 22nd, and were in Plymouth on the 7th and 5th, and Devonport on the 6th. Prior to that,Rotterdam was back in Den Helder.

thebig C
16th November 2007, 01:03
An EPV based on the smaller ENFORCER design and a couple of OPVs based on the SIGMA corvettes? The Dutch are aware of the kind of money the Naval Service have to spend, so maybe they're going to offer a package deal....

thebig C
16th November 2007, 14:58
Some pictures taken in Dublin Port this morning, as the Dutch sales team, sorry, Dutch Navy landing ships arrived:

3087

3088

3089

3091

3092

Johan de Witt was first to arrive, heading upriver with the tide. As I was watching from the Bull Wall, a rather red-faced elderly gent came along and asked "Is that a battleship? It'll be just like Shannon Airport, with all those American aircraft. We'll be a target now, you know. They don't realise Ireland is neutral!" Then he stalked off with his dog, probably composing his letter to the Irish Times.

Rotterdam came about an hour later, towed in by a couple of tugs, as she had to be reversed into her berth. One of the most notable aspects of the ships is the high slab-sided superstructures. It was just as well there was little or no wind in the port at the time, otherwise there might have been some fun. Both ships have a pair of CIWS for close air defence - one forward and one on top of superstructure aft - but they looked like big helpless targets for a submarine....

Goldie fish
16th November 2007, 21:59
Both ships have a pair of CIWS for close air defence - one forward and one on top of superstructure aft - but they looked like big helpless targets for a submarine....

Good thing the submarine thread was closed then.

Good thing too that the Navy of the Netherlands operate ships like this, which are engaged in a thing called "anti submarine warfare".
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/dezeven/images/DeZeven_1.jpg-.jpg

Major auxiliaries like Rotterdam, never work alone where there is a submarine threat.:rolleyes:

moggy
17th November 2007, 11:50
Both of them?

Is there enough room?

plenty of room goldie - took a visit to the ships last night - still quite a lot of berths available - some ship -the flight deck is hugh

pym
17th November 2007, 19:13
Its definitely a sales pitch..

Question 3
Are proposals for vessels which do not conform to the vessel dimensions set out in Appendix A and/or B of the RFP acceptable.

Answer 3
No. Vessels must be within the range of dimensions set out in the “Statement of Requirements” set out in Appendix A and/or B of the RFP.

Rotterdam Class
Length: 166.20 m
Beam: 25.00 m
Draft: 5.80 m

EPV Specifications
Length 130 – 140M
Beam 16-20 m
Draft 4.0- 5.0 m

This tender better not go the way of the S90's......

Goldie fish
17th November 2007, 19:15
Who said they were trying to sell us that class?

pym
17th November 2007, 19:45
No-one, I just find bringing in two vessels of a separate class to the one specified in the tender, in order to sell one which would, a slightly unusual sales strategy to be honest.

If it's just a display of the prowess of Schelde/Dutch ship building in general, would one not have sufficed?

When I saw the dimensions I had visions of the other contenders crying foul if it had been selected, culminating in a cancellation and no EPV.

Anyway, leaving my slight paranoia to the side, it'll be interesting to see how this pans out.

techman1
17th November 2007, 21:14
its not really the ships design or spec's thats on show, the shipyard were they were built
sponsered the trip, the 'yard' are doing a sales pitch for the new contacts

Goldie fish
17th November 2007, 21:31
Exactly techman. The arrival of two of the yards recent builds, combined with the fact the Irish DF already operated with Rotterdam, is merely a suitable location for any sales pitch, with a chance to view the build quality at the same time.

hptmurphy
17th November 2007, 21:59
The ability for the builder to provide is what is being paraded not the actual ships.

easyrider
22nd December 2007, 23:10
There was a Danish ship in Dublin Port a few weks ago, are they trying to sell to the Navy too? It looked like an under-armed frigate or an overgrown patrol vessel.

Goldie fish
23rd December 2007, 16:29
One of these?

http://www.defencetalk.com/pictures/data/3345/medium/Thetis.JPG

or these?

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/absalon/images/1-Absalon-ship.jpg

Gunner Who?
23rd December 2007, 17:02
It was F357.It was moored on the North Wall Extension, looked a bit worn,

Goldie fish
23rd December 2007, 17:39
It would do, Arctic weather and all that. They are not new ships. Good idea though. Small crews, sheltered fo'cstle. Makes life a tlittle easier. Can be expanded with frigate type sensor and weapon fit if required though.

easyrider
27th December 2007, 21:19
Looked it up on the Danish Navy website. A couple of waves made a right mess of the gun turret on the way to Greenland.

http://www.navalhistory.dk/images/Pressebilleder/ThetisKanonA800.jpg

Goldie fish
27th December 2007, 22:13
Ouch!

moggy
28th December 2007, 14:03
Ouch!

OH DEAR I WAS THINKING THE WEST COAST WAS BAD

Victor
2nd January 2008, 04:39
On a winter exercise off Norway, the German Navy one came back without three whole 76mm turrets.

hptmurphy
2nd January 2008, 22:33
Reminds me of the flare on Aislings gun deck after a wave......1986

The Count of Monty Christo
9th September 2012, 03:56
Reminds me of the flare on Aislings gun deck after a wave......1986

That happened between Isreal & Cyprus, A/Sea Martin Hennessy (Ships Diver) was on the wheel at the time. all the crew fitted life jackets, scareeeeeeee.

The Count of Monty Christo
14th September 2012, 00:58
The Norwegian Sail Training Ship "Christian Radich" secured alongside Sir, John Rogers Quay, D2. ETA 1400hrs today. the captain is an Army Officer with the rank off Captain Army Equiv. to Lieut. INS. met him nice guy. He will be on the calls of protocol tomorrow. Ship will ETD 1100hrs Monday.