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    Army Rangers among best elite forces
    The Irish Independent
    23-Aug-2003
    Michael Lavery

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    ARMY Rangers out-shot, out-ran and out-maneuvered dozens of special forces teams from around the world in a gruelling contest.

    The elite Irish soldiers picked up a bronze medal in the Combat Team Conference this week which tests the skills of special police and military units. Forty-one teams from 22 countries had battled it out.

    Austria's COBRA police team came first, with Italy's NOCS police second and the Army Ranger Wing (ARW) third. The Irish came in ahead of such highly skilled units as the Royal Dutch Marines, the Special Task Force from South Africa, Germany's GSG9, Sweden's Special Police Unit and GOE from Portugal.

    The British SAS and US special forces did not take part. They only enter competitions where they have a high chance of winning.

    The competition, held every four years, was organised by Germany's GSG9 at their base near Bonn.

    Rangers had to deal with hostage situations, evade attack dogs, swim long distances in the Rhine and hit targets with their H&K MP5 sub-machine guns and 9mm SiG pistols.

    The first event involved a 2.5km run down a steep incline. "At the end of the run, the runner picked up his team of four who were roped together and they made their way back up the hill," said the Ranger team manager. "The team were stopped during the first 1km to identify five 'tangos' (hostage takers) from mug sheets that had been shown previously." Getting it wrong meant having to carry a 20kg sandbag for the rest of the run.

    "The events tested the skills that a specialist unit would need in an actual intervention, including shooting, climbing, driving, swimming, leadership and making decisions under pressure," he said.

  • #2
    You beat me to it. Congrats to the ARW, although I was a bit offended by the line that states the US/UK only enter competitions where they have high chances of winning. Though this could be true, going out and saying it still makes us look like crap. :D
    "Everyone's for a free Tibet, but no one's for freeing Tibet." -Mark Steyn. What an IMO-centric quote, eh?

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    • #3
      I think the opposite is true, ie they imply that if they entered, they may have lost ( against superior opponents).

      " Its not the winning that counts, its the taking part" is obviously just a saying.......

      regards etc

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      • #4
        the US/UK only enter competitions where they have high chances of winning.

        They are crap thats why they didnt enter. Knew a guy who served with the SAS and he wasnt impressed. He did training with the Delta Force and said they absolutely sucked.

        Here here to the ARW!:-patriot:


        :flagwave: :flagwave: :flagwave:

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        • #5
          The Irish Rangers came third!!!!that is fanbluddytastic!!!!!!Look at the countries that they beat and the money the other countries have at their disposal to train with.I believe at times the army with the least has some advantages as they have to improvise.This is how we always beat the brits and US.
          Well done to the rangers.I met some in Australia once.
          Hanno
          Hanno

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          • #6
            They are crap thats why they didnt enter
            Perhaps the fact that both the SAS and U.S. SF are up to their tits in Iraq and Afghanistan has more to do with their absence than a fear of losing?
            "The dolphins were monkeys that didn't like the land, walked back to the water, went back from the sand."

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            • #7
              Don't make excuses for the UK/US the US are shite the UK have the best trained soldiers in the world,we have well traind troops here as well but we have no money and a government with no balls as well.So the ARW did the buisness and pride got them the Bronze well done boys form the RDF.:flagwave: :flagwave: :flagwave: :flagwave: :flagwave:

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              • #8
                I'm not making excuses for anyone, I'm offering a very valid reason for the absence of US & UK troops - they're at war. Competitions take second place to operations.

                I'm sure CalTank, Chuck6D and Stummer will all take up the issue of US forces being 'shite' up with you.
                "The dolphins were monkeys that didn't like the land, walked back to the water, went back from the sand."

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                • #9
                  Don't forget me Molloy! :D
                  "Everyone's for a free Tibet, but no one's for freeing Tibet." -Mark Steyn. What an IMO-centric quote, eh?

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                  • #10
                    Just because they are in iraq doesnt mean ALL of them are in Iraq........................



                    Up the ARW:flagwave:

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                    • #11
                      Just because they are in iraq doesnt mean ALL of them are in Iraq........................
                      No, quite a few of them are in Afghanistan, Georgia, Djibouti, the Phillipines, South Korea, Central & South America, Bosnia & Kosovo.

                      There's also the CRW roles they perform in thier own countries.


                      While I am in no way trying to diminush the achievment of the ARW, I doubt very much the US or UK stayed away because they decided they were shite & had no chance of winning.

                      By the way, what exactly are you basing your judgement on?
                      "The dolphins were monkeys that didn't like the land, walked back to the water, went back from the sand."

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                      • #12
                        I have seen nothing to indicate that American or British soldiers are in any way better trained or equipped than their Irish, German, Luxembourgese or any other country's special forces counterparts. All will use similar tactics in similar situations, frequently with the same weapons.

                        The SAS has reputation, both the SAS and US SF have plenty of operational experience to go with it, but I agree, I think the most likely reason for US/UK absence is simply the fact that they're a tad occupied right now.

                        NTM
                        Driver, tracks, troops.... Drive and adjust!!

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                        • #13
                          the UK have the best trained soldiers in the world
                          That would explain the Bravo Two Zero clowns,

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                          • #14
                            Has anyone got an actual run-done of the countries who particapted and their finishing places?

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                            • #15
                              I have a distinct feeling of de je vu here. Was this competition not run a couple of months ago with similar results?

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