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Farel'
26th June 2003, 22:18
Arriving tomorrow(friday 27th),to Cork Harbour initially at anchor,then to the Deepwater Berth, USS Leyte Gulf and USS Bulkeley.
Due to the security situation it is unlikely that these vessels will be open to the Public.
Can anyone link a few photos of these ships? Goldie? HPT? Oh ..that reminds me I must get around to scanning those germans...

Goldie fish
27th June 2003, 18:11
http://navysite.de/cg/cg55_4.jpg
USS Leyte Gulf
More details here (http://navysite.de/cg/cg55.html)





http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/burke/images/burke1B.jpg
USS Bulkeley

More Details Here (http://popularmechanics.com/science/military/2001/12/uss_bulkeley/)

The first of these ships is not now due until about 6pm saturday.

Goldie fish
4th July 2003, 05:15
Did they leave earlier than expected? I heard they were due in friday leaving wednesday,but they came in saturday and were gone tuesday evening.

I fail to see the point of US warships visiting any more. The cost in security alone,most of Cork North division were tied up minding them,including 2 patrol cars and a paddy wagon.The Garda Boat and a naval sea rider with garda personell aboard.
Those who were genuinely interested could not only not board,but were not even allowed near the vessels. The quays were sealed off in a security corden. I thought it was plain bad manners to have in addition to armed sentries on deck,secondary weapons were closed up ready for use. I noticed 2 50 cals pointing at Cobhs high road. Speaking to a female garda on this road,she informed me in all seriousness that her job was not to prevent parking on this narrow road,but to deter youths who might try to provoke the sentries.
What part of this is courtesy exactly? It used to be Naval tradition to have the crew on deck dressing ship on arrival to port,to demonstrate that its weapons posed no risk to that port....The US done the exact opposite last weekend
I no longer see the point of the US visiting if they are going to treat every non US person as a possible terrorist.

Big Al
4th July 2003, 08:50
they were just being prepared after all they had entered the disputed territory i.e. the peoples republic of cork, with all those red gaa jerseys they might of thought that the commies were comming :)

seriously though you are right its a frightful waste of garda time and taxpayers money and bad form from the yanks

Goldie fish
4th July 2003, 10:43
Sure they would have known that an expeditionary force was in thurles to support Our boys there. To be honest it was possibly one of the quietest possible weekends to visit.

I never thought I would hear myself protesting against the visit of US warships...

trellheim
7th July 2003, 16:46
Why don't the USN just moor in the roads rather than at the quay ?

Anyway the Leyte could probably turn all Cork into two-headed mutants with the Aegis radar . No offence intended to two-headed mutants.

strummer
7th July 2003, 20:02
Originally posted by Goldie fish
I fail to see the point of US warships visiting any more. The cost in security alone,most of Cork North division were tied up minding them,including 2 patrol cars and a paddy wagon.The Garda Boat and a naval sea rider with garda personell aboard.
Those who were genuinely interested could not only not board,but were not even allowed near the vessels. The quays were sealed off in a security corden. I thought it was plain bad manners to have in addition to armed sentries on deck,secondary weapons were closed up ready for use. I noticed 2 50 cals pointing at Cobhs high road. Speaking to a female garda on this road,she informed me in all seriousness that her job was not to prevent parking on this narrow road,but to deter youths who might try to provoke the sentries.
What part of this is courtesy exactly? It used to be Naval tradition to have the crew on deck dressing ship on arrival to port,to demonstrate that its weapons posed no risk to that port....The US done the exact opposite last weekend
I no longer see the point of the US visiting if they are going to treat every non US person as a possible terrorist.

Ever hear of the USS Cole and what happened to it after political correctness won the day over security and "warrior spirit." Unfortunately now that vessel security is being taken seriously it means that all "navy-types" are not afforded an opportunity to "explore" these ships. Maybe the CO came across the Indymedia site and decided not to take a chance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FMolloy
7th July 2003, 20:18
The difference in this case would be the presence of a competent and co-operative police force and the benign security situation in Ireland. A more discrete approach to security may have been in order.

strummer
7th July 2003, 20:38
Originally posted by FMolloy
The difference in this case would be the presence of a competent and co-operative police force and the benign security situation in Ireland. A more discrete approach to security may have been in order.

The question of the competence of the police force could be a thread on its own. Remember it is incomprehensible to your average American that Ireland has an unarmed police force. This is unheard of in the US and unarmed police are viewed as little more than security guards.

Discreetness and "sensitivity" were the causes of the USS Cole attack. Several high ranking officers lost their jobs after this fiasco. At this stage nobody is taking any chances even though Ireland poses little security risk. Who wants to risk it after the "attacks" at Shannon? Maybe the exploding Muslim population raised a red flag? Who knows?

Later.

FMolloy
7th July 2003, 20:44
The question of the competence of the police force could be a thread on its own. Remember it is incomprehensible to your average American that Ireland has an unarmed police force.

The copper directing traffic in O'Connell St. mightn't be armed but a lot of them are, and I'm sure that some of the armed ones would have been watching a high-profile target like a U.S. warship.

California Tanker
8th July 2003, 00:39
When going aboard a British warship in Holland, there was a sailor on the quarterdeck visibly armed with an L-85 rifle.

Ever since the USS Cole escapade, the USN has been a little more cautious about being unprepared in foreign harbours. Can't quite blame 'em.

NTM

Rooster
12th July 2003, 20:53
Every British warship has at least two sentrys with L85's, although we tend to be a little more discrete than the yanks who have an amazing ability to go completley OTT, although with the psycho irish housewives that smashed up the us navy plane at shannon you can maybe ubnderstand them being a little apprehensive.
Don't suppose it was the Montrose you were on last year at Den Helder navy days?

yellowjacket
29th August 2003, 11:00
US Navy destroyer USS The Sullivans will lead a flotilla to west Cork today to begin a four-day visit commemorating the five brothers who perished together during WWII.

The crew, with several members of the Irish-American family from Iowa, will participate in events on the Beara Peninsula including unveiling a plaque in honour of the brothers.

The five Sullivan brothers are US naval legends. They died in 1942 when a Japanese sub torpedoed the USS Juneau.

George, Francis, Madison, Joseph and Albert Sullivan of Waterloo, Iowa, volunteered for the navy after a friend died at Pearl Harbour. They got permission to serve on the same ship. Following the tragedy, only in rare cases did the US government allow brothers to serve together.

The story of the Sullivans - whose ages ranged from 20 to 28 - has been described as the greatest single sacrifice by any one family during the war and in US Navy history, and received world recognition through the film The Fighting Sullivans. The brothers' ancestors left Adrigole in the 1840s. A commemorative service will take place as part of the celebrations.

http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=1037962&issue_id=9727

Goldie fish
29th August 2003, 14:50
This is the second ship to bear the name of the Brothers. Those familiar with the story behind "Saving Private Ryan" may know of this family.
http://navysite.de/dd/ddg68poster.jpg
There was a film made about them too,I think it was called "the fighting sullivans" or something

According to the Official Ship Website (http://navysite.de/dd/ddg68.htm)

Destroyers are named for naval heroes and leaders. Thus the Navy decided to honor the five Sullivan brothers by naming a new destroyer THE SULLIVANS. This name has caused some confusion because the Navy does not use the article "the" in front of the names of its ships. In this particular instance "the" is part of the ship's name.

USS The Sullivans DDG68
http://navysite.de/dd/Image689.jpg

The original ship DD537 (http://www.maritime.org/hnsa-dd537.htm)
http://www.maritime.org/hnsa-img/dd537-1.jpg

andy
30th August 2003, 12:56
US navy pays respect to war hero brothers
30-August-2003
The Irish Independent


TIGHT security will surround the arrival of a special naval flotilla, led by the US missile-destroyer USS Sullivans, off the west Cork coast to commemorate a family who endured one of World War II's greatest losses, writes Ralph Riegel.

The USS Sullivans arrived off Beara to lead the commemoration of five Irish-American brothers who died when their ship was torpedoed in the Pacific.

The deaths of five Sullivan brothers - George (27), Francis (25), Joe (23), Madison (22) and Albert (19) - prompted President Roosevelt to issue an edict forbidding relatives from serving on the same US vessel.

The story of the Sullivans is mentioned by US top brass in Steven Spielberg's 'Saving Private Ryan'.

The Sullivan family emigrated to the US from Adrigole in the 1840s and the commemoration will recognise the heroism of the brothers. There will also be vessels from the Irish and French navies.

US officers will join relatives John Sullivan and Kelly Sullivan Loughren to unveil a plaque near where the family originated.

Goldie fish
30th August 2003, 19:51
Worth Mentioning that there should be a huge crowd of relatives at this,as the most common name in the Bantry area is Patrick O Sullivan...

Goldie fish
1st September 2003, 01:08
Apologies for the quality,here she is at anchor off bere island(not far from Fort Berehaven). One of the peacocks was there in company with her for security I assume,as well as a number of ferries and other vessels. Also in Castletownbere was a french Fisheries Protection vessel,"Sterne"

hptmurphy
2nd September 2003, 15:45
It was all kept very quiet until RTE got hold of it.my apologies for being unable to post any photos but my scanner went up in a puf of smoke recently and have been meaning to replace it for some time.......On the subject what hapened to all the photos that Cosantoir took during the last PSO are we ever going to see them in print?

Goldie fish
17th September 2003, 23:48
Later this month,docking at Cobh's Deepwater Quay on Monday Sept 29th, will be the USS Underwood FFG36
http://navysite.de/ffg/Image1355.jpg
http://navysite.de/ffg/FFG36.HTM

October 20, 1999 off Alexandria, Egypt
While entering the port of Alexandria, Egypt, UNDERWOOD ran aground about 4 p.m. The ship remained aground for approximately five hours until tugs pulled it free. Both its commanding officer and executive officer were disciplined. Damage was estimated $548,000.

Goldie fish
19th September 2003, 05:35
Was any more heard from US Naval officer since the last board "crash"?

Goldie fish
6th October 2003, 01:58
Current visitor to Cobh till midweek DDG80 USS Roosevelt. Security for this visit is as usual tight.
http://navysite.de/dd/ddg80pic.jpg
Website (http://navysite.de/dd/ddg80.htm)

Stinger
6th October 2003, 16:41
Where will she be berthed? any chance of getting a few pics of her??

Goldie fish
6th October 2003, 19:14
She is on the deepwater Berth in Cobh,no problem getting photos from the High road or the footbridge over the railway tracks.

Stinger
8th October 2003, 15:36
How long she staying for??

Goldie fish
8th October 2003, 17:12
She left with this mornings tide

Stinger
8th October 2003, 19:14
Ah well another missed opportunity. When is the next ship due? Do they ever berth in the Port of Cork in the city. If so do they do tours and the likes

Goldie fish
9th October 2003, 18:06
No, and NO...not the US ships anyway.

Goldie fish
8th November 2003, 05:13
Finally got around to posting photos of the recent visits on the web HERE (http://myhome.iolfree.ie/~goldiefish/index.htm)
This is an example of one of the recent visits
http://myhome.iolfree.ie/~goldiefish/Pcdv0015.jpg

andy
19th May 2004, 11:13
Peace group to picket US warship
Aoife Finneran
The Irish Independent
19-May-2004
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PROTESTERS will today picket the East Link Bridge as a demonstration against the docking of a US warship in Dublin port. The event is being organised as a message to the Government that they must demand the immediate removal of the ship from Irish waters.

Richard Boyd Barret, of the Irish Anti-War Movement, stressed that the organisation would be conducting a peaceful protest, without obstruction to traffic.

"We're asking passing motorists to honk their car horns in support," he said.

The demonstration is due to begin at 6pm.

The USS La Salle, the flagship of the US Navy Sixth Fleet, docked at Alexandra Basin yesterday on a goodwill visit, having previously served off the coast of Liberia and in the Persian Gulf.

Its arrival has been criticised by the Irish Anti-War Movement, who described it as "a PR exercise by the US government in advance of President Bush's visit in June".

The IAWM maintains that Ireland has become a major supporter of America's Iraqi operations, by allowing US soldiers to land at Shannon airport.

It urged the public to join its demonstration in protest against "horrific revelations about the practice of torture which has been inflicted on Iraqi prisoners".

Goldie fish
19th May 2004, 12:15
I expect they wont get within shouting distance of it.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/images/agf3a.jpg
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/images/la-salle.gif

USS La Salle (http://navysite.de/ships/agf3.htm#gallery)

ForkTailedDevil
19th May 2004, 12:30
That's one ugly ship.Don't think I've a design like that before.What's its role?

Goldie fish
19th May 2004, 12:34
click on the link under the photo

ForkTailedDevil
19th May 2004, 12:40
Sorry, never notcied that was a link.Interesting history.Seems to have evolved significantly beyond its original function.

Icarus
20th May 2004, 11:52
does anyone know the name of the navy ship in dry dock in Dublin Port??
I was coming over the East Link yesterday and noticed the vessel.
I am no navall expert, however it seemed to be to large to be an Irish one..:o

morpheus
20th May 2004, 14:38
He said its in Dry Dock?
surely the US navy ship would just be tied up at the Quay if its on an official visit?? why would it be placed in a dry dock?

Icarus
20th May 2004, 23:15
I checked out the link provided, and i am pritty sure that it is the same naval vessel. The gun turrets at the infront of the bridge are similar to one i saw.
And it is deffo in dry dock.
What attracted my attention was first the size, then i thought if it was in dry dock that might make it appear to be bigger than it actually is, as is elevated..bla bla
However, there was an Irish flag flying high on one of the masts, and I could see no other flags..

I dont think it is unheard of for foreign naval vessel to be in dry dock.
If memory serves, there has been a few of late, past two -three years.

It could be in dry dock for emergency repairs, perhaps.

morpheus
21st May 2004, 01:15
irish flag on a naval vessel.. means its probably irish?

although my sealegs go as far as handling a GP14 with a spineker and knowing what a jib is! maybe goldie can enlighten us?

ias
21st May 2004, 08:31
Is it not usual for visiting naval vessels to fly the flag of the country they are visiting in addition to their own countrys flag?

IAS

Goldie fish
21st May 2004, 08:57
It is customary for all visiting ships to fly the flag of the country they are visiting from the Uppermost main Masts. The ships own flag is flown from the stern.
If Irish Naval vessels need to be drydocked,this is usually done in Cork,where the dockyard is a mere half mile from the Naval Base.