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Jack.s
24th April 2012, 17:37
I'm curious once you join one unit say cavalry, do you have to stay with that unit or can you transfer to a different one if you want a change.. say the NSR?

trellheim
24th April 2012, 18:24
You can indeed transfer, there are regulations governing it.

Docman
24th April 2012, 18:35
I'm curious once you join one unit say cavalry, do you have to stay with that unit or can you transfer to a different one if you want a change.. say the NSR?

There are issues with medics transferring to other units. I've known several to drop a rank in order to transfer.

Jack.s
24th April 2012, 22:15
Thanks lads, I'm thinking of applying for a reserve military police coy (I'm interested in what they do at an enlisted level) but should I be lucky enough to be selected for a commission a long while down the road I'd like to maybe try the naval service reserve ( I was thinking of going into the merchant navy anyway). So would I be allowed to keep my rank?

danno
24th April 2012, 22:53
I recall GF putting up the outcome of enquiries he made on this,a drop in rank appeared inevitable.

Liachta Cultaca
24th April 2012, 23:03
There are issues with medics transferring to other units. I've known several to drop a rank in order to transfer.

I never heard that before, why when all medics complete Infantry career courses??

madmark
24th April 2012, 23:28
docman i as you know was a medic who transferred and i know of at least 4 others who are an asset to the units they serve in,in fairness it depends on the unit you move to i was lucky i moved to a great unit with great lads willing to teach me.but as things are now the BTC are training all recruits and 2 star on camp so this should not be as much of a problem as it used to be

Docman
25th April 2012, 02:11
The problem isn't that medics are trained properly, it is that that training is not maintained once they go back to their unit. Just about every PNCOs Cse I have seen involves the medics having to get remedial training on Steyr & GPMG because they have not handled the weapons in years. It is like anything, if you don't practice something regularly, you loose the ability to do it. I'm not saying that medical units should be doing weapons training & tactics regularly and it may just be a Bde thing.

mercurydoc
25th April 2012, 07:38
The problem isn't that medics are trained properly, it is that that training is not maintained once they go back to their unit. Just about every PNCOs Cse I have seen involves the medics having to get remedial training on Steyr & GPMG because they have not handled the weapons in years. It is like anything, if you don't practice something regularly, you loose the ability to do it. I'm not saying that medical units should be doing weapons training & tactics regularly and it may just be a Bde thing.

To be fair i have to agree, any contact iv had with Reserve Medics , whilst generally very very good at the medical stuff they do lack weapon skills and the general idea of soldiering. They see the 'medic patch' as a i dont have to carry a weapon :-) but ye do hahaha, kinda like a free pass.
Thats just my 2 cents

madmark
25th April 2012, 09:05
reserve medical units dont have weapons so are always looking for another unit to help out with it............but ya there are medics out there that when they have the medical patch they think i dont have to go out on the ground...but dont tar them all with the one brush there are medics out there with ok rifle skills and are not to bad on the ground

hptmurphy
25th April 2012, 10:37
The NSR in particular would have issues are beyond the basic foot drill and rifle they have no cross skilling and while at O rating rank it wouldn't be an issue given the very specific skills they require , its back to basics for most.

Eons ago I trained a unit of medics up to firing standard and they were enthusiastic on the basis, it was something completely new to them and jumped at the oppertunity to get to fire weapons on the range.

Madmark would be one of those that could be highlighted as a success swap.Although the transition was difficult as were were a fairly brutal bunch and took no prisoners especially medics. Regardless of his rank , he had to qualify in the eyes of his peers and took on the Cavalry skills as second nature while bring the asset of medical skills to the unit.

and To top it off he even shot falling plates at all army level

Jack.s
25th April 2012, 18:14
See the thing is I'm also in the coastguard as a volunteer and I should have all my STCW'95 basic training done so if thats the only problem with transferring to the NSR I should be ok?

Goldie fish
25th April 2012, 19:12
See the thing is I'm also in the coastguard as a volunteer and I should have all my STCW'95 basic training done so if thats the only problem with transferring to the NSR I should be ok?

If the NSR didn't teach you, it means nothing, unfortunately.

danno
25th April 2012, 20:12
If the NSR didn't teach you, it means nothing, unfortunately.

Unless you hold a civvy watchkeepers ticket which permits D/E .

Goldie fish
25th April 2012, 20:28
Unless you hold a civvy watchkeepers ticket which permits D/E .

Not in the NSR.

Law of the sea
25th April 2012, 21:04
Not in the NSR.

I'm pretty sure this topic has been up recently because I remember this argument. Anyways, this link seems to suggest otherwise.
http://www.military.ie/careers/reserve/join-the-reserve/specialist-officers

danno
25th April 2012, 21:05
Not in the NSR.

This has been posted about before in the naval reserve thread in the FAQ in naval forum and confirmed unless changed very recently.

Jack.s
25th April 2012, 23:01
If the NSR didn't teach you, it means nothing, unfortunately.
Haha you're not exactly making it easy for me man :tongue: Doesn't NSR do exactly the same training as the MN in regard to STCW'95.. in NMCI?

Jack.s
27th April 2012, 18:57
Anyone have a link to the regulations for this?

Jack.s
28th April 2012, 13:27
Was talking to some Permanent navy yesterday.. they said they doubted the NSR would be that rigid to not allow transfer with rank.