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Goldie fish
7th June 2012, 01:23
Link below has plans of a Canadian Flower Class type, rigged for minesweeping, without ASDIC or Radar. Note also they located their aft gun differently to the British Versions.
The Crew Accomodation is most Interesting. Seamen and stokers don't even share a deck.

http://www.hnsa.org/doc/plans/k124.pdf

Duffman
7th June 2012, 09:54
"Hey Frank, what do you think we should call this class of navy ship, maybe something along the lines of destroyer, cutter or dreadnaught? Something manly as we get enough stick for being camp in the navy"
"Hmmmm...I know!...FLOWER CLASS!!!!"
"Fabulous"

Laners
7th June 2012, 10:39
It looks different to the Flower Class Corvetts we had in service .

Goldie fish
7th June 2012, 11:09
It looks different to the Flower Class Corvetts we had in service .

Yeah, it's a canadian design, who had their pom pom further aft, in a basket. It's also rigged for minesweeping, lacks a radio room or ASDIC hut, and has a covered "compass house", and of course lacks a radar of any kind.

Laners
7th June 2012, 11:40
There does appear to be an ASDIC compartment below the Stokers mess . Looks to be a hybrid Corvette / Minesweeper .

Goldie fish
7th June 2012, 13:09
There does appear to be an ASDIC compartment below the Stokers mess . Looks to be a hybrid Corvette / Minesweeper .

That's just it. Murph discovered years ago when making a 1/72 model of the type that ours were very different to the original design. I think one of ours was different again, with a longer forecastle, designated as a command corvette or something?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/markwalters/Corvettes/LECliona2.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/brian_photos/Macha2001-01.jpg
http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/ships/1941/OXLIP_1086.jpg

Of course the original configuration also had 2 masts, which was replaced in the 1940s with first one mast in front of the bridge, and later with a lattice aft of the bridge.

Laners
7th June 2012, 13:20
Plus the Canadian version has a well deck with a mast/ derrick between the bridge and forecastle and it looks shorter overall .

Goldie fish
7th June 2012, 13:36
Again, at risk of repeating myself, the plans above are the ORIGINAL, 1930s design, with 4 inch front, and pom-pom aft. In the 30 years the type were in service, they gained numerous modifications and weapons, and alterations.

Laners
7th June 2012, 13:59
Gotcha, I was assuming that both types were from the same era . I was of the opinion that the Corvettes as we know them were introduced in WW2 specificaly as convoy escorts , i was not aware that they had been around prior .

Laners
7th June 2012, 14:14
My Father at sea on one of our Corvettes , right hand side of pic.

spider
7th June 2012, 14:25
I have already given the Mrs 'warning orders' of my intent to visit HMCS Sackville in Halifax in two years time.

If I make it I'll make sure I take plenty of photos.

A good book re Canadian Flowers is 'Anatomy of the Ship; The Flower Class Corvette Agassiz'...but the Canadian ones were not named after flowers, but Canadian towns. The Agassiz's funnel badge was of a grizzly bear holding a U-Boat!

The book goes into a good bit of detail re modifications etc.

apc
7th June 2012, 16:32
Was the bridge on the Irish Corvettes open to the elements all the time or was there also a covered bridge

Goldie fish
7th June 2012, 17:01
Open to the elements. Duffel Coats were provided.
See 1.50
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Laners
7th June 2012, 17:26
Was the bridge on the Irish Corvettes open to the elements all the time or was there also a covered bridge

Open bridge but and enclosed wheelhouse below the bridge, the minesweepers had the same arrangement when they arrived and sometime afterwards the bridges were enclosed . The Duffle coats continued to be fashionable on the sweepers , i can still see Baz wearing his .

hptmurphy
7th June 2012, 20:16
A good book re Canadian Flowers is 'Anatomy of the Ship; The Flower Class Corvette Agassiz'...but the Canadian ones were not named after flowers, but Canadian towns. The Agassiz's funnel badge was of a grizzly bear holding a U-Boat!

I have it, bought it with the intention of building a model from it, but the model was so wrong in places especially around the guns and ships boats conversion was not an economic reality coupled with the reality of our corvettes where you would have had to build up nine examples to cover the modifications while in service.

Canadian ones are a nightmare, given there were two basic versions , then there were the RN ones transferred into RCN service.

The model I was never meant to build.....

Lorenco
8th June 2012, 22:30
I'm trying to upload some photos of a model I've made of LE Cliona, I've never uploaded photos before. Any clues as to how to upload please?

Thanks in advance.

Lorenco
8th June 2012, 23:17
I have it, bought it with the intention of building a model from it, but the model was so wrong in places especially around the guns and ships boats conversion was not an economic reality coupled with the reality of our corvettes where you would have had to build up nine examples to cover the modifications while in service.

Canadian ones are a nightmare, given there were two basic versions , then there were the RN ones transferred into RCN service.

The model I was never meant to build.....

I'm trying to upload photos of the corvette model I've made in 1986 depicting the LE Cliona but I can't seem to be able to upload the photos. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I got a present of the Airfix 1/72 scale corvette model in 1985 shortly after my dad died. He had served on all 3 corvettes as a Leading Stoker and previously on the MTB's. He spent the remainder of his working life in the Naval Dockyard It took me most of a year to complete and I built in memory of him.

P.S. as an apprentice fitter in Verolme Dockyard between in the 1960's I worked on the corvettes in dry dock. (God that makes me feel old)