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Goldie fish
22nd January 2005, 13:56
2005
After a period of inactivity over the winter months,we can expect to see Warships from other nations on our Quays once again shortly.

The RN are expected to send a vessel to Cork during the anniversary commemoration for one of the First RN submarines,A5 which suffered an explosion in Cork Harbour in 1905. One of the early Holland type boats,it was being put through its paces in the harbour when it got into difficulties,killing 6 of its crew,5 of whom are buried in Cobh.


HM Submarine A5 (Forgotten Submariners)
Early in 1999, CPO Owen O'Keeffe of the Irish Naval Service was visiting Old Church Cemetery near Cobh, County Cork. The purpose of his visit was to do some research on U.S. Navy graves dating back to the First World War. In the course of his search for the American graves, O'Keeffe came across five particular graves that had like headstones. The graves were very neglected and overgrown and the headstones, which were in the form of crosses, were moss covered.

On discovering, through research, that the graves were those of Royal Navy Submariners who were killed in an explosion onboard HMS/M A5 in February 1905. O'Keeffe decided to do something about restoring the graves. As well as the restoration task, O'Keeffe decided to research the cause of death of the occupants of the five graves.

HMS/M A5 was built in Barrow-in-Furness, launched in March 1904 and commissioned on 11 February 1905. Her displacement was 190 tons surfaced, length 105 feet, beam 12.5 feet and a draught of 10.5 feet, so she was tiny by today's standards or even those of the immediate post war era. The A5's engines were powered by petrol and she had a range of approximately 300 miles. Her armament consisted of two 18-inch bow torpedo tubes and she carried 4 torpedoes, two in the tubes and two spare. A5's crew consisted of 2 officers and 9 ratings.

HM Naval Base Haulbowline, located on the western side of Cork Harbour, was quite large and had a dockyard and dry dock capable of holding a vessel of cruiser size. The base was almost entirely self-contained and even had its own hospital. The designs of the buildings were, and are, very similar to the buildings in RN bases worldwide. Cork being a natural harbour is the ideal location for a Naval Base. The ships based at Haulbowline would have looked after the Western Approaches area of the Atlantic. Cobh in Cork Harbour was also the last port of call of western bound trans-Atlantic liners.

Once commissioned, A5 accompanied by her depot ship, HMS Hazard, sailed from Barrow-in-Furness and called at Kingstown (now Dun Laoghaire), Co. Dublin, and Dunmore East, Co. Waterford, before arriving at Queenstown (now Cobh), Co. Cork on 13 February 1905. HMS/M A5 was the first submarine to be seen at the Haulbowline Naval Base. She attracted a great deal of attention and a large number of people were out to view the new arrival. Apart from being the first submarine to arrive at the Haulbowline Naval Base, the public were aware that a sister ship of A5, the A1, had been sunk during 1904 when in collision with a Liner. On arrival in harbour the A5 berthed alongside 'Hazard', which in turn was moored to a buoy. The crew moved over to the depot ship, which must have been a great relief when one considers the noise from the engines and the very cramped conditions within the small submarine when underway. It is difficult to imagine how the crew were able to get much sleep because of the engine noise etc.

During 14 and 15 February 1905, preparations were underway for A5 to carry out some exercises, in a type of shop-window effort to demonstrate her capabilities to the Commanding Officers of ships present in the naval base, and some 60 to 70 naval officers who had arrived at Haulbowline to witness the exercises and attend a subsequent lecture on submarines. These exercises were scheduled for 16 February and it was immediately prior to sailing on that fateful day that the submarine commenced refuelling from 'Hazard'. The A5's engines were petrol fuelled. Refuelling was completed at 0805. Approximately two hours later an explosion occurred inside A5 toward the stern, a second explosion some thirty minutes later followed this. The second explosion was located in the conning tower area. So great was the force of the explosions that members of the crew were actually blown out of the boat through the main hatch into the water. Subsequently two crew members were picked up by a tug.

The following were either killed by the explosion or died subsequently from injuries received:

Sub-Lieutenant F.C. Skinner
CERA Charles Sinden
PO 1st Class Arthur Manley
PO 1st Class William J Pryor
L/h Stoker Ernest Goldthorpe
The remainder of the A5's crew were injured but survived:

Lieutenant H.G.J. (Commanding Officer)
Chief Stoker Thomas Winstley
Acting ERA John B Randall
AB Edwin W Hughes
AB Edward Banham
Sub-Lieutenant Skinners's remains were taken to his hometown, Bedford, where he was buried with full military honours. The remains of the five ratings were interred in Old Church Cemetery near Cobh, with full military honours on 20 February 1905. It was a funeral the like of which has never been seen in Cobh since. Bands and pipers from HMS Emerald, The Royal Gordon Highlanders and that of the Admiral in charge of the Haulbowline Naval Base, Rear-Admiral McLeod. The town of Cobh actually closed down for the duration of the funeral, in a mark of respect to the deceased submariners.

An official inquiry and inquest were held in Haulbowline Base and Cobh Town Hall respectively, into the cause of the tragedy. The result was that the first explosion occurred towards the stern of the A5. The cause of the explosion was the vapour from the petrol mixing with the air and being ignited by a spark from the electric switch when the submarine's main motor was activated. Smouldering clothing or electric leads, resulting from the first explosion, was the cause of the second explosion under the conning tower. In March 1905, A5 was taken back to Barrow-in-Furness where she underwent major repairs. She rejoined the Fleet in October of that year and continued as part of the Home Fleet until December 1915, when she was paid off for disposal. A5 was broken-up in Portsmouth Dockyard in 1920.

The Irish Naval Service, in response to CPO O'Keeffe's good work, donated a granite block with a brass plaque giving details of the A5 tragedy. This was unveiled in March 2000 at a ceremony attended by Members of the Cork & County Branch of the RNA, whom CPO O'Keeffe had contacted in the course of his research. The Cork & County Branch also laid a wreath at the A5 Memorial following Ireland's 'Sea Sunday' Service in July 2000 and will continue to do so in the future.

Because the accident occurred before the First World War, the graves do not come under the remit of the War Graves Commission, which probably accounts for the neglect. Cork & County RNA intend holding a Commemoration Ceremony to mark the centenary of the tragedy in 2005. In the meantime it would be interesting to know if the War Graves Commission can give any assistance towards these neglected graves.

Since the restoration of the graves, there has been a visit, by the grandchild of one of the victims of the tragedy. The note on the wreath simply said, "Granddad, sorry it took me so long visit". Perhaps there are other relatives of these submariners who would like to visit the graves

http://www.submariners.co.uk/Dits/Articles/A5.htm

moggy
26th January 2005, 04:16
Dad Just saw 2 ships entering Cork Harbour with A770 and A771 on their sides. No other info. Any Ideas?


does anybody have any news on the ark royal

Goldie fish
26th January 2005, 17:39
welcome to last year....Live in the now!!!

hptmurphy
26th January 2005, 21:35
eh ! whos navy do those two belong to...at a guess I'd say French!

Goldie fish
15th February 2005, 04:57
http://www.seawaves.com/navcall.htm

29 Apr 05 BNS Aster M 915 Cork
06 May 05 BNS Aster M 915 Londonderry
28 May 05 H(SW)MS Carlskrona M 04 Cork
6-9 Jul 05 STI Tall Ships Waterford, Ireland
06 Jul 05 USCGC Eagle WIX 327 Waterford, Ireland

moggy
15th February 2005, 20:26
http://www.seawaves.com/navcall.htm

29 Apr 05 BNS Aster M 915 Cork
06 May 05 BNS Aster M 915 Londonderry
28 May 05 H(SW)MS Carlskrona M 04 Cork
6-9 Jul 05 STI Tall Ships Waterford, Ireland
06 Jul 05 USCGC Eagle WIX 327 Waterford, Ireland



Goldie great site well done

John
24th February 2005, 09:54
The Irish Times

Ireland Thu, Feb 24, 05

Four-day visit by British aircraft carrier
Tim O'Brien

HMS Illustrious, a British Royal Navy aircraft carrier, will arrive in Dublin Port for a courtesy visit this morning.

The ship, the second of three Invincible class aircraft carriers and the fifth ship to bear the name Illustrious, will remain in the port for the weekend, playing host to groups of schoolchildren from Dublin and Belfast.

Fresh from a two-year refit, the ship is about to undergo an extensive period of sea trials and exercises as she prepares to become the flagship of the British fleet.

Security measures in Dublin Port have been increased for the visit, monitored by the British embassy.

The embassy told The Irish Times that the visit reflected a warming of relations between Ireland and Britain.

During the four-day visit, children from the Shankill/Shankill project, a grouping of schoolchildren from Bray, Co Wicklow, which is close to Shankill, Co Dublin, and Skankill in Belfast, will visit the ship.

Other schools involved are Rutland Street Primary School in Dublin and St Columba's College, Rathfarnham. Patients of the National Children's Hospital will also attend.

Further details on the Illustrious are available on www.royal-navy.mod.uk

© The Irish Times

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ireland/2005/0224/4090480128HM9SHIP.html

Goldie fish
25th February 2005, 03:55
http://www.rte.ie/news/2005/0224/6news/6news56_14c.smil

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/invincible/images/Invincible_new_13.jpg

hptmurphy
25th February 2005, 15:17
that ain't Dublin!

Stinger
25th February 2005, 15:33
Sure it is. That's our new super- duper navy in the picture with it. Willie just bought it for us

Goldie fish
25th February 2005, 21:57
They dont call dubs west brits for nothing...thats the RN Base in Poolbeg...

B Inman
26th February 2005, 19:45
Attached are some photo's of HMS Illustrious in Dublin port.

moggy
1st March 2005, 21:18
Attached are some photo's of HMS Illustrious in Dublin port.


Massive pics it's a pity they would not allow access on board. maybe next time

Goldie fish
1st March 2005, 22:41
While nutters are trying to petrol bomb them or force their way onboard,I think they are better off keeping their access limited.

Stoker
2nd March 2005, 00:28
Great photos B. Inman, but what a berth to be stuck in, I wonder did anyone go ashore?

B Inman
2nd March 2005, 23:25
The berth was the worst in the port, behind a mountain of scrap metal, beside the sewerage works and boy does it smell. I saw some of the crew returning from shore leave. The nearest bus stop is about 15 minutes walk away and that walk will take you through a travellers encampment on both sides of the road with all of the usual rubbish scattered all about. The berth however gets full marks for security only one way in, Garda Checkpoint plus one RN rating with a hand held radio( I presume he was there to identify crew returning from leave). The only part of the ship visible from the public road was the bow and the upper part of the superstructure. To photograph the whole ship I had to go the ferry terminal on the north side of the river.

The attached jpg shows how close the ship was to the sewerage works. The concrete pens in the foreground are full of foul smelling shit.

Slacker
18th March 2005, 12:19
Saw a French vessel just up from the Asgard II on John Rogersons Quay. Didn't catch pennant number, just saw the flag.

pym
20th March 2005, 19:09
The French Vessel in Dublin during the week was the very nice looking P676 of the Flamant class.

http://www.netmarine.net/bat/patrouil/flamant/photo06.htm

If I remember correctly unlike that photo it had 2 stripes running at a slant towards the bow, one red, one blue. Very fetching :D

Cant find much info in English.

B Inman
20th March 2005, 21:37
Attached are JPG's of the French ship Flamant alongside at Dublin. Armament was 2 .5 HMGs.

hptmurphy
20th March 2005, 22:31
the Flamant are part of the OPV54 class of which there are three.She is 54m in lenght and is designed to operate out to 200km...Crew of 21.

Janes make no entry on this vessel and the French Navies website is beyond my french language capabilities . :biggrin:

hptmurphy
20th March 2005, 22:40
they have been in service since 1994 and seem to perform as public offshore protection force...part of the navy I presume without being technically classed as warships.

Goldie fish
21st March 2005, 06:41
One of these type was in cork some time ago working as comms relay for some Yacht race...
Very sleek,almost motor yacht like,painted grey. The tinted windows on the bridge are the business..

Goldie fish
29th April 2005, 19:39
Cork's quays sees the visit of the Belgian minehunter Bellis (M916)which was involved in the rescue of passengers when the "Herald of Free Enterprise" capsized off Zeebrugge back in 1987. She will be open to the Public tomorrow from 2pm to 5pm.

http://www.mil.be/navycomp/viewpic.asp?LAN=en&FILE=unittext&ID=636
http://www.mil.be/navycomp/units/index.asp?LAN=en&FILE=unittext&ID=661&MENU=196&PAGE=1

Great website by the way..check out this ships photo gallery!

http://www.mil.be/navycomp/gall/index.asp?LAN=en&FILE=gall&ID=30568&IDS=3

Laners
30th April 2005, 00:11
What a shitty berth for H.M.S Ilustrious, and having visited the ships web site there is no mention of their visit to Dublin . Maybe they found nothing ilustrious about the visit .

Bosco
30th April 2005, 00:39
Poor feckers stuck beside the sewerage works.
Some really classy photo's around of all the ship keep it up.

Laners
1st May 2005, 23:54
Attached are JPG's of the French ship Flamant alongside at Dublin. Armament was 2 .5 HMGs.
Looks like the Q M on duty got a bit a bit of a sun tan and does that look like a shot gun wepon he is armed with ?

Bosco
2nd May 2005, 00:48
does that look like a shot gun wepon he is armed with ?

Looks like it to me!
Confined spaces on ship and all that maybe its more effective?
Haven't got a clue about ships so im only guessing.

hptmurphy
2nd May 2005, 17:38
He probably heard it was one of the favoured weapons around Dublin and decided to even things up a bit. He's probably a mech...and thats not a suntan.

Laners
2nd May 2005, 22:31
Murph where is your sense of humour , we know it is not a suntan , especialy when you consider the location of the photo .

hptmurphy
3rd May 2005, 15:45
Have you been in Dublin lately....he's more like some of the natives than he is a french seaman....he also resembles a lot of mechs I knew prior to a good wash!

Muzzle
12th May 2005, 14:26
Spotted the two of them as I drove in to the city. Shit pic sorry...

Steamy Window
12th May 2005, 14:31
finally!a navy smaller than our own- only the 2 ships you say? :biggrin:

happenin
12th May 2005, 19:51
Interesting. Might skip down for a look.

moggy
12th May 2005, 21:10
maybe they are sending some crew to kinsale, major naval activity there this weekend
I also believe the brits are sending a ship, if you are in cork head to kinsale this weekend??

hptmurphy
12th May 2005, 22:29
Kingston Class MCMs...supposed to have very poor sea keeping and are generally dislike by their crews 12 in service.
Displacemnet.962 tons
lenght 55.3 metres
Beam 11.3
draught3.4
speed 15kts
Range5000 kts at 8kts.
Armament.1x Bofors 40/60
2x12.7mmm machine guns

Laners
13th May 2005, 01:35
Actualy Multi Purpose Patrol Vessels and retro fitted for MCM duties and a host of other duties , not actualy minesweepers . The Canadians use them for coastal patrol work etc .

Goldie fish
13th May 2005, 09:19
I caught a few "good" photos of them last night. Moored stern to stern. Design seem to be based on Oil Rig support ships. Odd choice with the Bofors 40/60(didn't look like a powered mount) and the .5 behind the main armament on the bridge wing.

Those visiting are HMCS GOOSE BAY and HMCS SHAWINIGAN.

I am surprised to see them this far from home without some form of support ship though.

hptmurphy
13th May 2005, 12:44
How in the name of jaysus could you operate an L/60 aboard ships without power mountings....its a mark 5 mounting so that might be the answer.

Sorry laners...I was only quoting Janes and they have it classed as an MCM vessel.
They crossed the atlantic earlier this year as part ofa UK deployment ...So the support vessel maybe still in the UKas I'm sure that there wwere more than two involved in the deployment,
Warship International Fleet Revue did a feature on it earlier on this year.

Goldie fish
13th May 2005, 12:50
Its one of the old french type mountings,with the Gun in a Bathtub...I'm pretty sure I saw traversing handles...
Either way. For a relatively modern warship,where comparable ships use 25mm or 30mm, the Vintage,calibre and type is unusual.

the babs
13th May 2005, 14:35
the Niamh passed by 2 of them when she was in toronto last year

Goldie fish
13th May 2005, 21:21
Here they are,taken last night at high tide. 704 Shawinigan and 707 Goose Bay.

Muzzle
13th May 2005, 21:28
You two should stick em up on the new gallery

hptmurphy
13th May 2005, 23:03
Why has some thing so small and under equipped got two funnels...given its larger than a PV but smaller than eithne?

Laners
13th May 2005, 23:11
Why has some thing so small and under equipped got two funnels...given its larger than a PV but smaller than eithne?
That's to allow for the extra space between the funnels and the after deck to accomadate cargo and container/ modules for the various roles these ships are desinged to do.

Laners
13th May 2005, 23:24
Like you mentioned earlier Murph about these ships not being very seaworthy I would agree just looking at the photos, it looks like they ride high in the water like the old Ton class sweepers . In all fairness I think the P 50 class is about as good as you can get in it's class and looking at similar ships in other Navies it is way ahead of them all . Eithne on the other hand should get the award for the ugliest looking ship ever built .

Laners
14th May 2005, 21:30
Well if the Canadians can have a ship named the Shawinigan I think the name for the next Irish Naval ship should be the L.E. Shananigan .

Goldie fish
15th May 2005, 06:20
shawaddywaddy?

hptmurphy
21st May 2005, 12:18
Shania Twain?

Yeah the Eithne aint pretty short stubby bow....gun deck looks outta place and she seems to be bent upwards in the middle...although she is prettier that some of the russian krivak class corvettesand some osa class FPBs....Mow the PVs thats a different story ...they even look sleek!

Brian McGrath
21st May 2005, 13:41
Hi Guys

Two German Navy ships from the 3rd minehunter squadron "M1058 Fulda" and "M1060 Weiden" will visit Galway from Friday the 27th June until Tuesday the 31st June.
The ships will be open to the public on the Saturday and Sunday from 2-5pm, the German Navy last visited Galway in 1992 when over 5,000 people toured the visiting ships.

Will post pictures on Galway Ships Website next week


Brian
www.galwayships.com

Laners
22nd May 2005, 19:05
Shania Twain?

Yeah the Eithne aint pretty short stubby bow....gun deck looks outta place and she seems to be bent upwards in the middle...although she is prettier that some of the russian krivak class corvettesand some osa class FPBs....Mow the PVs thats a different story ...they even look sleek!
She is bent upwards in the middle as are all the decks below from midships forward.
There was a cargo crane port side on the gun deck which was removed befor the ship was handed over.

Goldie fish
22nd May 2005, 19:47
It was there after handover..but it rusted away...Nothing to do with foreign ships though...(hint:keep it a little on topic)

Goldie fish
27th May 2005, 06:58
The finnish Minelayer FS Pohjanmaa and the Swedish Naval Training vessel HSwMS Carlskrona will be visiting Cork this weekend.

Also due is the French Fisheries Patrol vessel Sterne.

Goldie fish
31st May 2005, 00:08
Upcoming visits.

03 Jun 05 BNS Belgica A 962 Cork

21 Jun 05 FGS Sachsen F 219 Dublin
21 Jun 05 FGS Spessart A 1442 Dublin

6-9 Jul 05 STI Tall Ships Waterford, Ireland
06 Jul 05 HNLMS Urania Y 8050 Waterford, Ireland
06 Jul 05 NE Cisne Branco Nil Waterford, Ireland
06 Jul 05 USCGC Eagle WIX 327 Waterford, Ireland

Goldie fish
31st May 2005, 05:19
I am also expecting HMAS Anzac sometime in june also. She is currently in Spain,and will be in the UK for the Trafalgar celebrations.

http://www.navy.gov.au/nt/images/Anzac-Northern-Trident-.jpg
Watch here for details.

Goldie fish
1st June 2005, 23:59
HMSwS Karlskrona in Cork

http://a3.cpimg.com/image/7B/46/48546683-d7fa-02000180-.jpg

FS Pojhanmaa

http://a9.cpimg.com/image/17/21/48545559-d2f1-02000180-.jpg

RCC Surbheir

http://a9.cpimg.com/image/A7/2E/48545959-ce44-02000180-.jpg

Gunner Who?
2nd June 2005, 01:29
Nice pics Goldie, that Finnish ship FS Pojhanmaa appears to have X and Y turrets. does it have A and B turrets too? Have not seen that kind of configuration for ages.

Goldie fish
2nd June 2005, 07:53
Its main armament is the same as Eithne,a 57mm also in the B position.

http://a7.cpimg.com/image/AF/2E/48545967-8b61-02000180-.jpg

The X and Y armament is 40mm
http://a7.cpimg.com/image/AD/3F/48546477-e2f1-02000180-.jpg

as well as at least one of these on the waist
http://a7.cpimg.com/image/A3/3F/48546467-e647-02000180-.jpg

Gunner Who?
3rd June 2005, 01:06
serious stuff , ty for that . what is her designed role?. the transom stern lokkslike it has doors. did you see what they are for?

Goldie fish
3rd June 2005, 03:43
I understand she is classed as a Minelayer. I presume this is what they are for. The scandanavians are fond of that kind of thing,and Karlskrona had similar,though larger doors.

Goldie fish
8th June 2005, 06:30
Further updates on the Cork Visits, 22 Jun 05 FGS Köln F 211 Cork. Reading elsewhere there is a Pakistani vessel due around the same time.

Meanwhile,Our ships are far afield this month also.
10 Jun 05 LE Ciara P 42 Liverpool
17 Jun 05 LE Niamh P 52 Kiel
28 Jun 05 LE Eithne P 31 Spithead
08 Jul 05 LE Aisling P 23 Zeebrugge


People will think we have loads of ships...Whose gonna stay home and make the tea?

the babs
8th June 2005, 23:50
the aussies are due in cork around the 21st june. something happening around the naval base that week for them. the french training vessel just left yesterday morning and the french band are in dublin today after spending the weekend in cork.. i think they are heading off tomorrow

Goldie fish
9th June 2005, 19:42
Aussies are due in cork from 19-22nd of june.

http://www.irishmilitaryonline.com/board/showthread.php?t=2399

B Inman
10th June 2005, 18:19
HMS Hursworth at Sir John Rogersons Quay Dublin Fri 10 June.

Laners
10th June 2005, 19:01
Tut Tut , they forgot to take down the steaming flag , not very Royal Navy like .

Gasplug
10th June 2005, 19:05
Why is it flying an irish flag?

Goldie fish
10th June 2005, 19:06
I have been informed that 2 Pakistani ships will be visiting Cork on or about the 22nd of june also(it'll be crowded up there).
PNS Tippu Sultan and Moawin will be visiting,with the smaller Amazon Class(HMS Avenger) frigate Tippu Sultan heading to Cork City Quays,while the larger Moawin goes to the deepwater berth at Ringaskiddy(which is normally closed to non business visitors,but the waste ground opposite provides a good photo op.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/pakistan/images/moawin.jpg
AO Moawin

Goldie fish
10th June 2005, 19:08
Why is it flying an irish flag?

All ships are obliged to fly the flag of the nation they are visiting from the masts. Its an ancient tradition.(and a right pain in the ass if you are transiting the maas/schelde/rhine)

B Inman
10th June 2005, 22:56
The QM on HMS Hursworth was wearing DPM,s. He is in the second JPG. Is it unusual for sailors to wear DPM,s while serving on a ship ?

Gunner Who?
10th June 2005, 23:38
Nice pics Inman, the guy in DPM's looks like an RM .I dont know if all ships still have an RM detachment. Maybe GF can look that up. M36 is she a minsweeper only or multi role. That pic of her stern is good shows the advances from the Bamba days/type. Is that a fishery patrol pennent she is flying? Oh and whats the name of that three master in the background ?

DeV
10th June 2005, 23:47
M36 is a Hunt class mine counter measures vessel. Yes it is a fishery patrol pennent.

B Inman
11th June 2005, 00:02
Nice pics Inman, the guy in DPM's looks like an RM .I dont know if all ships still have an RM detachment. Maybe GF can look that up. M36 is she a minsweeper only or multi role. That pic of her stern is good shows the advances from the Bamba days/type. Is that a fishery patrol pennent she is flying? Oh and whats the name of that three master in the background ?


This guy wore a black beret, I thought RM,s wear green.

I'll get the name of the 3 master on Sunday some JPG,s also.

Laners
11th June 2005, 00:43
The QM on HMS Hursworth was wearing DPM,s. He is in the second JPG. Is it unusual for sailors to wear DPM,s while serving on a ship ?
The ships web site shows several members of the crew wearing DPM,s and black Beret on an exercise ashore with an army unit . There does not appear to be R M detachment onboard so I assume the Q M shown in the second photo is Royal Navy .

Laners
11th June 2005, 04:29
I have been informed that 2 Pakistani ships will be visiting Cork on or about the 22nd of june also(it'll be crowded up there).
PNS Tippu Sultan and Moawin will be visiting,with the smaller Amazon Class(HMS Avenger) frigate Tippu Sultan heading to Cork City Quays,while the larger Moawin goes to the deepwater berth at Ringaskiddy(which is normally closed to non business visitors,but the waste ground opposite provides a good photo op.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/pakistan/images/moawin.jpg
AO Moawin
The fish and chipper vans better stock up on curry sauce .

Gunner Who?
11th June 2005, 06:14
that AO Moawin looks very big. What are those derricks midships? Could it be a RFA type ship?

BTW re HMAS Anzac visit to Cork have a look at the Oz Navy virtual fleet site :

http://www.navy.gov.au/vf/

FMolloy
11th June 2005, 16:29
The last time I saw an RN vessel up close (Pool of London, last year) I saw several RN personnel, including the guard, in DPM's.

Goldie fish
22nd June 2005, 21:27
Right then..loads happened in the interim. I'm just back from a marathon ship photography session that begun at 5am (yes I am nuts).
Grafton left Monday afternoon(missed the morning tide)
Anzac,its fine women and its excellent band,have come and gone,their visit a very pleasant one for them apart from the anti war protests by Laurel and hardy. Its Quay space has been taken by the German Frigate Koln, while the Pakistani Frigate Tippu Sultan occupies the custom House Quay.
The Former RFA Tanker from Pakistan,Moawin, is berthed at Ringaskiddy.
I didnt see any women on board...

B Inman
23rd June 2005, 07:54
Nice pics Inman, the guy in DPM's looks like an RM .I dont know if all ships still have an RM detachment. Maybe GF can look that up. M36 is she a minsweeper only or multi role. That pic of her stern is good shows the advances from the Bamba days/type. Is that a fishery patrol pennent she is flying? Oh and whats the name of that three master in the background ?



Attached is A jpg of the three master Thalassa

Goldie fish
23rd June 2005, 07:56
FGS Koln is open to the public on Friday and saturday from 2pm to 6pm.

Meanwhile, those in the vicinity of either Pakistani vessel are being treated to the sound of the Islamic call to prayer from the ships Public address system...and then to the sight of the crew gathering on the helideck,facing Mecca...going about the Islamic ritual.

Gasplug
23rd June 2005, 07:58
I wonder do they do this during a combat engagement?!

Goldie fish
23rd June 2005, 08:08
Do what? Why?

Gasplug
23rd June 2005, 08:18
sorry i should have been more specific, i meant pray...

In school we have a large, very large, muslim population and when they(the school) were doing fire drills all the muslims went up to their prayer room on the top floor to pray!

hptmurphy
23rd June 2005, 08:21
90% of the RNs mine counterwarfare vessels are employed on FP duties and thsi goes back to the days of the TONs..if not we would have a bigger FP fleet than the RN..hence th FP pennant.

Somebodywill definetly get a kick into the balls given that the staeming pennat is still up.

The RN working dress includes a black beret as does our own....but they are reale seen alongside...and DPM with black beret is standard for security crews. While she may not have a detachment of RM on board she may have commando quailified naval personnel.Could our resident RN head clear this up please.

back in days of sentries on the bridge of the Eithne with green helmets and FJs I remember listening to some old git waffling in the barr of the Carney arms about we had our own marines on board and they were guarding the ship. Me full to the gills decided to publicly inform him to which hole I thought he was talking out of...he wanted to fight me there and then...he was old enough to be my grandad....his honour was disturbed...

hptmurphy
23rd June 2005, 08:27
Cmon hwere the photos of the type 21..is she there for the week? how long?

Goldie fish
23rd June 2005, 08:28
I'll be putting them up tomorrow night....I just need to find someplace to put them all..

Goldie fish
24th June 2005, 07:30
stolen from franks site


The Spanish carrier Principe de Asturias arrived at Dublin Port today. Embarked (on deck) are five EAV-8B Harriers, two SH-3D Sea Kings and one AB.212ASW. It's possible there are others below decks. It is not open to the public and is believed to be sailing on Saturday. It's moored on the south side of the quays, east of the toll-bridge

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/asturias/images/asturias1.jpg

B Inman
25th June 2005, 02:34
Spanish carrier Principe de Asturias in Dublin at Pidgeon House Road, same berth as HMS Illustrious.
There is no visiting but unlike when Illustrious visited I had no problem through the gates onto the quayside. Attached are some photos.

B Inman
25th June 2005, 02:37
More photos of Spanish carrier Principe de Asturias

Goldie fish
25th June 2005, 14:55
Interesting thing about that ship is the location of the flight deck elevator,and the fact that she is equipped with RAS hoses,normally only foind on tankers.


More foreign Naval visits to cork this weekend(its pretty crowded withh grey at the moment,most of the Merchant ships are stuck at anchor in the harbour).
Two Minesweepers from the Netherlands, HNLMS Haarlem and Zierikzee,accompanied by the Hydrographic survey vessel HNLMS Luymes and training vesselHNLMS Kinsbergen are currently berthed at Albert Quay, and are to be found in the evenings listening to dodgy dance music and drinking beer(what do the dutch call dutch gold? :rolleyes: )
Nearby the Portugese Frigate NRP Commandante Jòao Belo(Portugese Man of war.. :biggrin: )can be found. She looks pretty old,possibly 1960s/early 70s vintage? Some of the visitors,including Koln and the Jòao Belo will be open to the public today from 1400 to 1800. Pakistanis are due to sail later today.

Photos to follow(of course)

hptmurphy
27th June 2005, 08:58
Lovely pictures binman...I saw her at the weekend but as usual no camera. Dublin City Council contrived my visit...road works and diversions....

Its amazing how popular Ireland is becoming for naval visits as during the eighties they were far and few between.

Interesting to note that the first RN warships to visit Ireland...Waterford about 6 years ago...HMS Guernsey...a former FP vessel was the first to do so since 1968! the last to visit then was HMS Ghurka a tribal class destroyer which came under fire from a guy called Brendan Behal, a local IRA activist who opened up with a .303 from Giles quay which was about 500yards range.there wereno casualties but the closest shot nearly hit the INS liason officer....LTCDR John Doyle...who was a subbie at the time.Fire was not returned ..nor did the RN. Behal ran in the European elections in the mid 80s...and failed. The RN TON classs had visited Waterford in the mid sixties to include HMS Wotton.
There were many european visitors to include a german fleet of sub hunters in 1978( the visit was to confirm my enlisting in the NS some 7 years later)...and various other visitors until recently.....and this year will be the penultimate year with the tall ships.

Incidently the naval service were absent from Waterford from 1982 until 1986 because of a sweeper related incident.Prior to this in 1978 a young O/S was stabbed to death creating alot of bad feeling between the service and the city.

The LE Aoife is now twinned with the city and has made many visits along with most of the other vessels. It would have been my moment of glory had been given an oppertunity to visit my home town on the vessel I was serving on...the closest I came was in 1988 when we escorted our first arrest of the year into Dunmore East and dropped anchor for a few hours.

Eithne did not tie up alongside Waterford until 1993.

Brian McGrath
2nd July 2005, 21:07
Hi Guys

A bit late posting a few pictures of the recent visit to Galway of two German Navy Minesweepers, a bit tied up with the Air Show, check them out at www.galwayships.com
in the naval section, I have a few more to put up.

There is a stunning picture of the "Red Arrows" flying over the "Emer" in this weeks Connacht Tribune if anyone is in Galway they should try to get a copy or I might have a word with the editor and see if I could get a copy to post here.

Regards
Brian McGrath

hptmurphy
4th July 2005, 08:37
Forget the humble pie the airshow was commendable to your self and Gibby..I knew him when i was an AFSIO in Waterford.Now if you could just mkae galway arport a bit bigger and they all might land and we could get some proper photos.

RIP to the birdie that caused thge RAF Jaguar to spend a few days in shannon. thanks Brendan....bring your camera to work next time.

Goldie fish
12th July 2005, 23:24
The french Naval Vessel "Commandant L'Herminier" Is due in Cork this Thursday(Bastille Day). She will be open to the Public on Saturday and Sunday from 2pm to 5pm.
http://www.netmarine.net/bat/avisos/cdtlermi/photo01.jpg

In service since 1986,Based in Brest,it is the newest of the A69 d'Estienne d'Orves class,many of whom have been retired from french service. They are a very regular visitor to Cork. So much so that i am tired of them....
Show us something new...
The type is (hopefully) being replaced by the FREMM(Fregate Multi-Mission) Multipurpose Frigate,due to enter service in 2008,while the larger frigates will be replaced by the Horizon type.

Goldie fish
29th July 2005, 15:15
The French research ship D'Entrecasteaux arrived in cork this morning and Headed for the City Quays. I'm not sure how long its in for,but it is a frequent visitor,particularly at long weekends...

Goldie fish
29th July 2005, 15:19
How in the name of jaysus could you operate an L/60 aboard ships without power mountings....its a mark 5 mounting so that might be the answer.

Sorry laners...I was only quoting Janes and they have it classed as an MCM vessel.
They crossed the atlantic earlier this year as part ofa UK deployment ...So the support vessel maybe still in the UKas I'm sure that there wwere more than two involved in the deployment,
Warship International Fleet Revue did a feature on it earlier on this year.

Just to confirm the weapon is in fact an L60,with all vessels of the type being fitted with retired land based weapons as a cost saving measure. They are crewed by reservists, with only 2 techies on board being part of the Full time Canook Navy.

Goldie fish
6th August 2005, 22:45
The Danish Thetis class Frigate HVIDBJ0RNEN is currently in Cork(surrounded by Swarms of Mackerel and Pollock).
An interesting ship for many reasons already discussed here numerous times.
http://navysite.de/specials/baltops/2002/hvid_1.jpg

ELVIS
8th August 2005, 20:52
thats a lovely looking ship

Goldie fish
8th August 2005, 21:02
More photos.

ias
9th August 2005, 13:56
Excellent photos!

IAS

Goldie fish
23rd August 2005, 20:54
The Brazilian training ship "Brasil" is currently on the quays in Cork city. I understand she was in Dublin recently also?
On the other side of the river,the Danish Sail Training vessel "Danmark" can be found.

Not a lot of imagination went into the naming of either vessel then...

B Inman
6th November 2005, 21:10
Belgium Minehunter Bellis at Sir John Rogersons Quay Dublin 6/11/05.

Lordinajamjar
6th November 2005, 23:14
Belgium Minehunter Bellis at Sir John Rogersons Quay Dublin 6/11/05.

YABBA DABBA DOO!

B Inman
6th November 2005, 23:42
Curious, if one of the "sister" ships has a Wilma cartoon?

Goldie fish
12th November 2005, 04:27
WHile Trolling Indymedia earlier I notice that RSF are protesting at the presence of 2 British Warships in Cork...Therefore... :wink:

2 Royal Naval Vessels are currently on a courtesy visit to Cork. HMS Tyne and HMS Severn are in Cork until Monday. Sadly due to the activities of SF/IRA and their clones, these vessels are not open to the public.