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  • Originally posted by Flamingo View Post
    The thing I took from this is that the decision to send an evacuation helicopter was made by a non medically trained radio operator, seemingly without any decision-making algorithm or risk assessment process.

    A partially amputated thumb is not a serious injury - any bleeding would be easily controlled, and it would be far from life-threatening in itself.
    You’d think that they would at least put them in touch with Medico Cork

    https://emed.ie/Administration/Medic...Cork_about.php

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    • I remember 25 years ago the A&E in Haslar Hospital gave medical advice to ship's at sea by radio.
      'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
      'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
      Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
      He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
      http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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      • 'We need to know that this can never happen again', says sister of R116 Captain Dara Fitzpatrick


        The bodies of Captain Dara Fitzpatrick (pictured) and Captain Mark Duffy were recovered in the aftermath of the incident. Picture: Denis Minihane

        FRI, 03 JUN, 2022 - 11:11
        OLIVIA KELLEHER

        The sister of Rescue 116 pilot Captain Dara Fitzpatrick has said the conclusion of the inquest into the helicopter crash which claimed the life of her sibling represents the end of the "admin" of grief and now gives her space to deal with the emotional side of the process.

        Verdicts of accidental death were returned by a jury at the inquests into the Rescue 116 helicopter crash five years ago.

        All four crew members on board the helicopter perished when it crashed into Blackrock Island, off the Mayo coast, on March 14, 2017.

        A trained psychologist, Niamh Fitzpatrick wrote a book about grief in the aftermath of the tragedy titled Tell me the Truth about Loss.

        Ms Fitzpatrick said when you deal with investigations or inquests, the admin of grief can get in the way of the emotional part of the process because it keeps you stuck in that harrowing detail.

        "All the review board hearings and the inquest took me back a bit to the grappling place of grief. The psychologist in me understands that's okay," she told RTÉ radio.

        "I would say closure is not a word I would use. I would say the conclusion of investigations and inquests closes one chapter in grief which is the admin chapter but it makes space then for the emotional part of grieving because grieving has been paused and interrupted by all these investigations.

        "Even though they are necessary. They get in the way of the emotional work you have to do as a griever.

        I feel as if I have done a PhD on life and a PhD on people and pain and hope. We can find that balance between remembering and living.

        "My immediate family and extended family are such incredible people and our friends too."

        Ms Fitzpatrick described the last five years as haven been "harrowing".

        "Grief in any circumstance is difficult. And grief when there is an inquest and investigations and there were several investigations and two inquests - it is just gruelling.

        "It is necessary. We need it. We need to know that this can never happen again. So it is the safety of current crews and future crews so it is necessary. But it has been a very gruelling five years."

        She commended the "really tight ship" overseen by Coroner Dr Eleanor Fizgerald stressing that the inquest was efficient and sensitively handled. Ms Fitzpatrick also paid tribute to the jury.

        "The jury were excellent. Such a difficult job for them but they took their time. They asked for clarifications. They gave it the consideration and respect it deserved. And you could see it meant so much to them to do that.



        "I feel as if I have done a Ph.D. on life and a Ph.D. on people and pain and hope,"said Niamh Fitzpatrick. Picture: Mark Nixon
        "It wasn't an easy job because some of the evidence we heard was harrowing. It was very difficult to hear some of it.

        "Even though you know it beforehand. You have an idea what you are going to hear. Some details just hop out and it is quite emotional.

        "My heart went out to the jury and to the witnesses as well as the family members. But I think there is a relief in having that piece done with now.

        "We know with grief how somebody died impacts on how we grieve. If you look at people through the pandemic who lost a loved one and weren't able to say goodbye. All of those things impact."

        Ms Fitzpatrick admitted she found the statements from Achill Island RNLI crew who recovered Dara from the water very difficult.



        John and Mary Fitzpatrick, parents of Dara and Niamh, speaking to the media at Belmullet Civic Centre, Co Mayo, yesterday. Picture: Conor McKeown/PA Wire
        "It was very difficult to hear. But it is very necessary. Grief is very different for everybody. Some of us really need and want information. And some don't and that is okay. But for me, while it is painful it is also helpful if that makes sense.

        "I am a sister first. What psychology has done has made me understand some of the feelings that I have felt and continued to feel and maybe allowed me not to judge that. Because grief is very confusing. It is bewildering. it is such a tough journey. It is exhausting."

        The bodies of Captain Fitzpatrick and Captain Mark Duffy were recovered in the aftermath of the incident.

        However, the remains of Winchman Ciaran Smith and Winch Operator Paul Ormsby, remain lost at sea.

        'We need to know that this can never happen again', says sister of R116 Captain Dara Fitzpatrick (irishexaminer.com)
        For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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