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    Hi all,
    What was this weapon like to fire and maintain? Any pictures of it out there? Was it any good?
    regards
    GttC

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    Always taught it was strange having a mortar in a turret - untill I realised it was breech ( and not muzzle) loaded.

    All were delivered (or it may have just been the first batch) fitted with 60mm & 2 x MMG. It was later replaced with a HMG.

    The chassis must be okay as they replaced the turret and created the AML20.

    Not sure about the AML60 but the main armament on the AML90 can't have good for the suspension etc when it was fired.

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    • #4
      Always taught it was strange having a mortar in a turret - untill I realised it was breech ( and not muzzle) loaded
      Misconception..it could be fired either way in the HB variant of the AML 60

      don't forget there were two types of AML 60..the HB and the CS cars. The CS mortars were written off during the 1980s andreplaced witha .5 the car being uniquelyknown as the AML 127.

      What was this weapon like to fire and maintain? Any pictures of it out there? Was it any good?
      regards

      Very simple to maintain, clean, fire as it was removable and the drils were relatively straight foward.

      The car it self was an excellent firing platform. Highly accurate, no need for bedding in and was mobile.( assuming the car itself didn't 'calf' as the petrol engine were prone to do without notice.)

      Training gunners started with the MAGs and moved onto the mortar, you had to fire the MGS before the mortar in order to qualify.

      Given the associated difficulties with driving the damn thing it was often the case where we had more gunners that drivers.

      Becoming an AML 60 driver was like trying to re invent the wheel as it had very little in common with driving an ordianry vehicle, in fact it was closer to riding a motor bike.

      Not sure about the AML60 but the main armament on the AML90 can't have good for the suspension etc when it was fired.
      Gun recoil system absorbs most of the recoil as opposed to the chassis so not to much of an issue there,

      the second photo from the barch linked is mis captioned as it is fact an AML 60 as opposed to an AML '127' and is from the 'ZE' Batch of cars.There were also a couple of 'RI' cars int his configuration

      Most if not all bar one of these were scrapped and used as hard targets as oopsed to the
      'ZH' batch which had undergone the .5 conversion were given a new lease of life as AML 20'again an Irish designation.

      Contrary to popular myth the diesel conversion was not of Irish origin but was a package offered by peugeot but fitted here , had also been carred out on Morrocan AML 90's.

      The AML 20s turret is not an AML 60 turret with a 20mm weapon but in fact an AML 90 turret ( Ok..Eland) turret with a 20mm gun..installed upside down!
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      • #5
        confirm driving technique

        Originally posted by hptmurphy View Post
        Misconception..it could be fired either way in the HB variant of the AML 60

        don't forget there were two types of AML 60..the HB and the CS cars. The CS mortars were written off during the 1980s andreplaced witha .5 the car being uniquelyknown as the AML 127.




        Very simple to maintain, clean, fire as it was removable and the drils were relatively straight foward.

        The car it self was an excellent firing platform. Highly accurate, no need for bedding in and was mobile.( assuming the car itself didn't 'calf' as the petrol engine were prone to do without notice.)

        Training gunners started with the MAGs and moved onto the mortar, you had to fire the MGS before the mortar in order to qualify.

        Given the associated difficulties with driving the damn thing it was often the case where we had more gunners that drivers.

        Becoming an AML 60 driver was like trying to re invent the wheel as it had very little in common with driving an ordianry vehicle, in fact it was closer to riding a motor bike.



        Gun recoil system absorbs most of the recoil as opposed to the chassis so not to much of an issue there,

        the second photo from the barch linked is mis captioned as it is fact an AML 60 as opposed to an AML '127' and is from the 'ZE' Batch of cars.There were also a couple of 'RI' cars int his configuration

        Most if not all bar one of these were scrapped and used as hard targets as oopsed to the
        'ZH' batch which had undergone the .5 conversion were given a new lease of life as AML 20'again an Irish designation.

        Contrary to popular myth the diesel conversion was not of Irish origin but was a package offered by peugeot but fitted here , had also been carred out on Morrocan AML 90's.

        The AML 20s turret is not an AML 60 turret with a 20mm weapon but in fact an AML 90 turret ( Ok..Eland) turret with a 20mm gun..installed upside down!
        Hi I am restoring an AML here in the UK and have no idea (when its finished..) how to drive it - is there any literature or an ex-driver I could call to talk it through?

        Cheers

        Baz

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