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  • I dont think so , would not additional purchases of Man 8x8 recovery vehicles not be a more wise move, fleet comminality and all that. I think the brits are going away from 6x6 recovery in favour of 8x8

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    • Originally posted by apc View Post
      I dont think so , would not additional purchases of Man 8x8 recovery vehicles not be a more wise move, fleet comminality and all that. I think the brits are going away from 6x6 recovery in favour of 8x8
      Clearly we don't see it that way.
      For now, everything hangs on the CoDF report, which is published, but after discussion with parties in government will probably commence being implemented in May or June.

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      • What wrecker lorry do we use these days? It years since I saw one?

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        • They kept ACMATs doing the job for years, using Holmes gear that used to be on other trucks. Think there was one or 2 6x6 leyland Dafs about also.
          For now, everything hangs on the CoDF report, which is published, but after discussion with parties in government will probably commence being implemented in May or June.

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          • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
            They kept ACMATs doing the job for years, using Holmes gear that used to be on other trucks. Think there was one or 2 6x6 leyland Dafs about also.
            Never saw a Leyland 6x6 in DF service but I do remember many moons ago that 2 LSB hsd a 4x4 DAF recovery truck
            "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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            • Actually, you are correct, the ACMAT wreckers were 6x6 but the Leyland DAF that gained the Holmes gear from the old Bedfords were 4x4.
              For now, everything hangs on the CoDF report, which is published, but after discussion with parties in government will probably commence being implemented in May or June.

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              • I'd run a competition for the supply of all terrain trucks to the state in a framework kind of arrangement and all state agencies that need any get to order through that contract. This massively reduces cost and should be EU-legal.

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                • Problem is, the army want a bit more from an All terrain truck than the other state agencies who may use them. For example, few require their trucks to be able to switch off all external and internal lighting while the vehicle is moving. Most require the opposite.
                  Also, even less require the cargo body to be also used for the carriage of passengers.
                  For now, everything hangs on the CoDF report, which is published, but after discussion with parties in government will probably commence being implemented in May or June.

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                  • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
                    Problem is, the army want a bit more from an All terrain truck than the other state agencies who may use them. For example, few require their trucks to be able to switch off all external and internal lighting while the vehicle is moving. Most require the opposite.
                    Also, even less require the cargo body to be also used for the carriage of passengers.
                    Which is how the DF has the Ford Ranger 4x4’s

                    they are part of a Framework contract for all State agencies and are therefore very cheap under that contract. DF, Gardai, Civil Defence, National Ambulance Service, OPW, Revenue and many others all have Ford Rangers for that reason.

                    if your State agency specifically doesn’t want it they have to put in a business case to be exempt.

                    not many agencies would need offroad 4x4 and 6x6 trucks and definitely not the size the DF has. Having said that it would be worth looking at. The vehicle could be same but with NATO lighting, NATO tow hitch etc.

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                    • Originally posted by DeV View Post

                      Which is how the DF has the Ford Ranger 4x4’s

                      they are part of a Framework contract for all State agencies and are therefore very cheap under that contract. DF, Gardai, Civil Defence, National Ambulance Service, OPW, Revenue and many others all have Ford Rangers for that reason.

                      if your State agency specifically doesn’t want it they have to put in a business case to be exempt.

                      not many agencies would need offroad 4x4 and 6x6 trucks and definitely not the size the DF has. Having said that it would be worth looking at. The vehicle could be same but with NATO lighting, NATO tow hitch etc.
                      You'll find that many of the specialised vehicles come from a different production line.
                      For now, everything hangs on the CoDF report, which is published, but after discussion with parties in government will probably commence being implemented in May or June.

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                      • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post

                        You'll find that many of the specialised vehicles come from a different production line.
                        And different specs


                        really they could replace the whole DF truck TCV 4x4 / 6x6 fleet with a common make & model, ideally at least with some commonality with rest of the truck fleet.

                        cheapest way of course is via an agreement with the U.K. with MAN

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                        • Originally posted by DeV View Post

                          And different specs


                          really they could replace the whole DF truck TCV 4x4 / 6x6 fleet with a common make & model, ideally at least with some commonality with rest of the truck fleet.

                          cheapest way of course is via an agreement with the U.K. with MAN
                          Clearly you have not been following what has happened in the last 15 years where HGVs from 4x4, 6x6, 8x8, artic tractor units have been from the one manufacturer.

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                          • Originally posted by Fantasia View Post

                            Clearly you have not been following what has happened in the last 15 years where HGVs from 4x4, 6x6, 8x8, artic tractor units have been from the one manufacturer.
                            Touché

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                            • Originally posted by Fantasia View Post

                              Clearly you have not been following what has happened in the last 15 years where HGVs from 4x4, 6x6, 8x8, artic tractor units have been from the one manufacturer.
                              In fairness, your absolutely correct and it is only a good thing!

                              i do take it back

                              are the older multiple makes being withdrawn or are these in addition?

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                              • saw one of the new Scania 4x4s on the M7 yesterday, looks great with the new cab design and the multi coloured camo paint work, unfortunately it was towing a 20ft container on a trailer which had jack knifed partially blocking the road

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