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  • sofa
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue7wM0QC5LE

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  • UniSol
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    Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
    Mowag drivers who never experienced Panhard don't know how good they have it.
    It's like the difference between sleeping in a damp sleeping bag in december under a leaky bivvy bag, or sleeping in your own bed...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKHF...=onemediamusic

    Damp sleeping bag? Luxury!

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  • Flamingo
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    Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
    Mowag drivers who never experienced Panhard don't know how good they have it.
    It's like the difference between sleeping in a damp sleeping bag in december under a leaky bivvy bag, or sleeping in your own bed...

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  • na grohmiti
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    Originally posted by UniSol View Post
    Don't forget no power steering and no servo assistance on the brakes...that being said I'd still hop in and drive one tomorrow. Have great memories of the gunnery and driving courses I did in them
    Mowag drivers who never experienced Panhard don't know how good they have it.
    It's like the difference between sleeping in a damp sleeping bag in december under a leaky bivvy bag, or sleeping in your own bed...

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  • UniSol
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    Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
    It is a pretty decent gun, all things considered. Adding a laser rangefinder and passive night sights to ours made them a worthwhile weapon. Unfortunately its weakness was sticking it all on top of a tiny but heavy hull moved about by an underpowered 2litre Peugeot diesel. Probably still a useful weapon against "technicals" but would not survive long against modern armour. If you can't kill with the first shot, you won't get a second try.
    Don't forget no power steering and no servo assistance on the brakes...that being said I'd still hop in and drive one tomorrow. Have great memories of the gunnery and driving courses I did in them

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  • na grohmiti
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    Thanks, no.

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  • EUFighter
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    Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
    Thank you for clarifying that which I learnt many years ago while training as an AML90 gunner. Have you any other insight you could offer that my instructor, a veteran of many Lebanon tours in the AML90, could not?
    Only that if you want one to play with now there is one for sale:
    https://military-ads.com/ads/aml-90-panhard-eland-1974

    It is an Eland should have a bit more room to move inside.

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  • GoneToTheCanner
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    don't be snarky! you know perfectly well that the comment wasn't aimed at your instructor.;-)

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  • GoneToTheCanner
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    Djibouti stuck an AML90 turret onto a Cougar MRAP. I'd hate to take it off road!

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  • na grohmiti
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    Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
    AFAIK only ever a single AML-90 turret was fitted to a BTR and that was in Djibouti. More widely known and used is the Ratel-90 from South Africa which is still used in large number all across Africa. The SANDF fitted the AML-90 turret to the Ratel IFV so as to provide Fire Support for its Ratel equipped units.

    While the 90mm HEAT could defeat early post war tanks that had not been fitted with ERA this is not there intended role. It is giving local direct fire support, taking on dug-in position, soft skinned and lightly armoured vehicles. They are not for taking on MBTs, that is left to ATGW variants.
    Thank you for clarifying that which I learnt many years ago while training as an AML90 gunner. Have you any other insight you could offer that my instructor, a veteran of many Lebanon tours in the AML90, could not?

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  • EUFighter
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    AFAIK only ever a single AML-90 turret was fitted to a BTR and that was in Djibouti. More widely known and used is the Ratel-90 from South Africa which is still used in large number all across Africa. The SANDF fitted the AML-90 turret to the Ratel IFV so as to provide Fire Support for its Ratel equipped units.

    While the 90mm HEAT could defeat early post war tanks that had not been fitted with ERA this is not there intended role. It is giving local direct fire support, taking on dug-in position, soft skinned and lightly armoured vehicles. They are not for taking on MBTs, that is left to ATGW variants.
    Last edited by EUFighter; 7 December 2020, 05:36.

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  • na grohmiti
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    It is a pretty decent gun, all things considered. Adding a laser rangefinder and passive night sights to ours made them a worthwhile weapon. Unfortunately its weakness was sticking it all on top of a tiny but heavy hull moved about by an underpowered 2litre Peugeot diesel. Probably still a useful weapon against "technicals" but would not survive long against modern armour. If you can't kill with the first shot, you won't get a second try.

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  • GoneToTheCanner
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    Some of the African countries have fitted the AML 90 turret to the BTR.

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