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I drove one in the states - big ! Plenty of fuel needed.
Isn't a drawback a lack of commonality and ANOTHER set of spares to bring out ?
Isn't a drawback a lack of commonality and ANOTHER set of spares to bring out ?
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re: 13 Ford f-350 SORV
Interesting link found on the web, it seems that it is not only Ford that are converting there usual oFf roaders into full military versions
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I've seen a picture of a sf sorv Ford-350 it look's a lot different, the cab is cut away, the rear hamper is an inlarged wmik type one and it's about 6 to 8 inch's more ground clearenceDr. Venture: Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?
Dr. Venture: Dean, you smell like a whoreComment
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The general opinion is they are light weights when it comes to military levels of abuse. I suspect they are basicly commercial models, without the upgrades needed for military use. Certainly they ain't no Hummer.Originally posted by Padre
Can anyone tell what`s wrong with the Nissans that are in use?Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret MeadComment
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The Newer Nissans(Patrol GR) are worse than the old ones,with Little if any REAL off road ablity,and the radio mans seat faces forward,with absolutely no legroom or means of fast egress.
They are great for bringing the Kids to school though.
I think its time they returned to Land Rover. The first 110 gave trouble,but the more recent Defenders and even Discovery's have much greater capability than the Nissans in fact among the current batch of "civilian" 4x4s, the Nissan usually comes last,behind the Daewoo,Izusu,Toyota and Mitsubishi.
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.Comment
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In the latest issue of military machines international ther's a small article on the DF and in it, it talk's about some of the nissan's being replaced by a more heavy duty military vehicle, maybe humvee likeDr. Venture: Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?
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That was designed by the CIS Corps, and does work if used properly, with part of the back seat down. There is a newer version again...the radio mans seat faces forward,with absolutely no legroom or means of fast egress.Comment
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The lack of off road ability is down to the fact that they are supplied with standard road tyres as opposed to the more capable off road types, but given that the majority of miles put up by these vehicles in escorts etc is on roads it makes for sense than using the faster wearing off road tyres. Selected vehicles in certain units have had off road tyres installled where it is clear that the vehicle will be used mainly in an off road capacityComment
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Why are they rubbish off road... well: useless 3litre diesel engine, part time four wheel drive, lockable rear diff useful in limited circumstances, no central diff lock, no traction control and yeah - road tyres.
A Defender is the best bet.Comment
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I know it may be hard to hear, but sometimes it isnt always the fault of the vehicle being driven off road that is the problem,a lot of the time it can be the inexperienced driver behind the Wheel.Unfortunatly at the moment there is not a great deal of time allocated to Off Road Driving in the DF, but having said that the Defender is a more suitable car for off road driving.Comment
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Land rovers are expensive though.
The Nissan is cheaper but much less capable.........
What is wrong with the Toyota Land Cruiser range?
They come with diesels, the suspension can be modified by mechanics,
(if they can do it for the AML's why not these?)
4x4, Have ability for rear cabs, as well as 'pick-up' cargo bays, and tow bars as standard.............
and they do have commonality with civilan models
(eg Spares, replacements, etc.)
They have also been used by foreign SOF, as well as conventional mil.
Why not ?
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Good Point. The UN have always used mostly Toyotas,I think the model is the 4runner or 4trak or something...
Mate of mine who drove one in BiH swears by their off road capability. Off road being vital when a section of road has been swept away by flash floods(which has been known to happen in parts of Ireland...
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.Comment
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Problem with F-350 & HUMMER is a huge wheelbase (distance between the front & rear tyres) and low ground clearance (very close to the ground)Comment
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Nissan's more expensive than Defenders? Eh.. Nope.
+ 2004 Defender 110 Station Wagon = €43k approx (with all that VAT and VRT rubbish)
+ 2004 Nissan Patrol (LWB) = €63k
+ Toyota Landlorry LWB about the same price.Comment
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Why is it then that the older Nissans are preferred for use offroad?Originally posted by dangermouse
The lack of off road ability is down to the fact that they are supplied with standard road tyres as opposed to the more capable off road types, but given that the majority of miles put up by these vehicles in escorts etc is on roads it makes for sense than using the faster wearing off road tyres. Selected vehicles in certain units have had off road tyres installled where it is clear that the vehicle will be used mainly in an off road capacity
Did the DF spend more time training for offroad driving with the older model Nissans?Originally posted by gruballright!
I know it may be hard to hear, but sometimes it isnt always the fault of the vehicle being driven off road that is the problem,a lot of the time it can be the inexperienced driver behind the Wheel.Unfortunatly at the moment there is not a great deal of time allocated to Off Road Driving in the DF, but having said that the Defender is a more suitable car for off road driving.
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