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  • DeV
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    Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
    I heard yesterday that in the US Army, the Cav Squadron is no more, making way instead for greater UAV usage.
    Actually seems to be more fires, cyber, EW, AD and CUAS



    with Cav Sqns in CONUS based Stryker & Inf BCTs being made inactive

    also 3,000 SOF posts going

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  • na grohmiti
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    I heard yesterday that in the US Army, the Cav Squadron is no more, making way instead for greater UAV usage.

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  • DeV
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    Complex US orbats

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  • DeV
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    Different scale in terms of size, orbat, equipment but not necessarily roles

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  • Rhodes
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    Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
    Looking at what we propose to supply to the new EU Battlegroup should give us the design for our future ground forces including the Cav units. It has been announced that we will provide a mechanised company and a support unit. What is missing is any form of recon unit as it is expected that such a capability will be provided by other nations within the force. The other semi-permanent deployment is UNIFIL and while officially it is called a Battalion it has the strength of 2 companies even if in the past it was larger. The deployment in fact could be considered as made for the Cav as it is mainly an ISTAR mission. However the main challenge is that these deployments are of Ad-hoc units, none of them are permanent units. Before deployment they get a bit of training in the Glen and this works as many have deployed before but it is far from ideal. The other thing is the fixation on the Brigade organisation. We are never going to deploy at that level and if we ever need to do so at home something is majorly gone wrong. IMHO it would better to focus on a modular unit system with the lowest maneuver element being the mechanised company and the whole organisation support by the Corps system.

    *The type of vehicle is for illustration only
    Basic Unit: Mechanised Company
    HQ Platoon
    - 2x Piranha V C&C
    - 2x Eagle V
    - 2x 7.5t 6x6 trucks

    3x Infantry Platoon
    - 2x Piranha V IFV - Armed with 30mm cannon in remote turret
    - 2x Piranha V ICV - Armed with RWS

    Mortar Section
    - 2x Piranha V 120mm mortar (turreted)

    CAV Section
    - 2x Piranha V CRV

    Medical Squad
    - 1x Piranha V MED

    Engineering Section
    - 1x Piranha V AEV
    - 1x Piranha V ARV

    The as a Battalion would have 3 Mechanised companies the combined Cav strength would be 6 CRV's which would make up a troop sized unit.
    Any yes I know we do not have currently enough vehicles to equip all our Infantry Battalions but we should ask how do we deploy our troops overseas? We deploy as a armoured mechanised infantry (apart from East Timor). Therefore that is how the Army should be equipped.
    There will be no Cav element in the new EUBG.
    UNIFIL is not "made for the Cav". It's the complete opposite, they have no overseas role of their own as there will never be an Irish brigade overseas.
    As I said in an earlier post, one of the options looked at by the CoDF was an infantry-only army with some CSS capabilities and the disbandment of all CS units.
    If you went down the road of having no Brigade structures with Inf Bn's as the largest units then Bde units like the Cav Sqn's are now redundant and the Cav Corps would be disbanded.
    Inf Bn's have their own organic recce platoon.

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  • DeV
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    Originally posted by ODIN View Post

    A Support Coy Recce Platoon might take that one up with you
    I should have been more specific…. Overseas

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  • ODIN
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    Interesting overview of what US Light Cavalry Squadrons are doing with Polaris.

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  • ODIN
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    Originally posted by DeV View Post

    open to correction but the recce element of the Inf Bn is a Cav Troop
    A Support Coy Recce Platoon might take that one up with you

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  • DeV
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    Originally posted by EUFighter View Post
    Looking at what we propose to supply to the new EU Battlegroup should give us the design for our future ground forces including the Cav units. It has been announced that we will provide a mechanised company and a support unit. What is missing is any form of recon unit as it is expected that such a capability will be provided by other nations within the force. The other semi-permanent deployment is UNIFIL and while officially it is called a Battalion it has the strength of 2 companies even if in the past it was larger. The deployment in fact could be considered as made for the Cav as it is mainly an ISTAR mission. However the main challenge is that these deployments are of Ad-hoc units, none of them are permanent units. Before deployment they get a bit of training in the Glen and this works as many have deployed before but it is far from ideal. The other thing is the fixation on the Brigade organisation. We are never going to deploy at that level and if we ever need to do so at home something is majorly gone wrong. IMHO it would better to focus on a modular unit system with the lowest maneuver element being the mechanised company and the whole organisation support by the Corps system.

    *The type of vehicle is for illustration only
    Basic Unit: Mechanised Company
    HQ Platoon
    - 2x Piranha V C&C
    - 2x Eagle V
    - 2x 7.5t 6x6 trucks

    3x Infantry Platoon
    - 2x Piranha V IFV - Armed with 30mm cannon in remote turret
    - 2x Piranha V ICV - Armed with RWS

    Mortar Section
    - 2x Piranha V 120mm mortar (turreted)

    CAV Section
    - 2x Piranha V CRV

    Medical Squad
    - 1x Piranha V MED

    Engineering Section
    - 1x Piranha V AEV
    - 1x Piranha V ARV

    The as a Battalion would have 3 Mechanised companies the combined Cav strength would be 6 CRV's which would make up a troop sized unit.
    Any yes I know we do not have currently enough vehicles to equip all our Infantry Battalions but we should ask how do we deploy our troops overseas? We deploy as a armoured mechanised infantry (apart from East Timor). Therefore that is how the Army should be equipped.
    In a EUBG, the recce element will be provided I assume by another nation

    open to correction but the recce element of the Inf Bn is a Cav Troop

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  • EUFighter
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    Looking at what we propose to supply to the new EU Battlegroup should give us the design for our future ground forces including the Cav units. It has been announced that we will provide a mechanised company and a support unit. What is missing is any form of recon unit as it is expected that such a capability will be provided by other nations within the force. The other semi-permanent deployment is UNIFIL and while officially it is called a Battalion it has the strength of 2 companies even if in the past it was larger. The deployment in fact could be considered as made for the Cav as it is mainly an ISTAR mission. However the main challenge is that these deployments are of Ad-hoc units, none of them are permanent units. Before deployment they get a bit of training in the Glen and this works as many have deployed before but it is far from ideal. The other thing is the fixation on the Brigade organisation. We are never going to deploy at that level and if we ever need to do so at home something is majorly gone wrong. IMHO it would better to focus on a modular unit system with the lowest maneuver element being the mechanised company and the whole organisation support by the Corps system.

    *The type of vehicle is for illustration only
    Basic Unit: Mechanised Company
    HQ Platoon
    - 2x Piranha V C&C
    - 2x Eagle V
    - 2x 7.5t 6x6 trucks

    3x Infantry Platoon
    - 2x Piranha V IFV - Armed with 30mm cannon in remote turret
    - 2x Piranha V ICV - Armed with RWS

    Mortar Section
    - 2x Piranha V 120mm mortar (turreted)

    CAV Section
    - 2x Piranha V CRV

    Medical Squad
    - 1x Piranha V MED

    Engineering Section
    - 1x Piranha V AEV
    - 1x Piranha V ARV

    The as a Battalion would have 3 Mechanised companies the combined Cav strength would be 6 CRV's which would make up a troop sized unit.
    Any yes I know we do not have currently enough vehicles to equip all our Infantry Battalions but we should ask how do we deploy our troops overseas? We deploy as a armoured mechanised infantry (apart from East Timor). Therefore that is how the Army should be equipped.

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  • DeV
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    Originally posted by ODIN View Post
    As referenced by California Tanker in his video, the USMC is trialing an Advanced Reconnaissance Vehicle at present, one of the contenders is the Textron Cottonmouth,

    A force-multiplier armed to the fangs with advanced full-spectrum reconnaissance and surveillance sensors, it’s expertly designed to defeat threats beyond line of sight and comes complete with cutting-edge technologies that will keep adversaries up at night.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIULGAucWvc&t=2s
    Only real disadvantage is it would be an additional vehicle type (have read that it is designed to accommodate a turret if required)

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  • ODIN
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    Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
    Not a fan of the big satcom domes where a turret should be...
    Large array of sensors, but no RWS. Interesting.

    The Jaguar looks to be a good compromise between sensor suite and fire power.

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  • na grohmiti
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    Not a fan of the big satcom domes where a turret should be...

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  • ODIN
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    As referenced by California Tanker in his video, the USMC is trialing an Advanced Reconnaissance Vehicle at present, one of the contenders is the Textron Cottonmouth,

    A force-multiplier armed to the fangs with advanced full-spectrum reconnaissance and surveillance sensors, it’s expertly designed to defeat threats beyond line of sight and comes complete with cutting-edge technologies that will keep adversaries up at night.


    ARV, Cottonmouth, Textron Systems, military vehicle, military, textron

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  • na grohmiti
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    Did it not start there? Bastard youtube...

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