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Army Lansverks article in UK mag.
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I remember seeing these vehicles in the Easter Sunday parades in Dublin back in the 60's (with the Vampires overhead!) when I was but a lad. They looked quite impressive then, to the uninformed eye of course, but when I recently watched a newsreel of the same vehicles seeing-off the first of the Congo deployments I realised just how utterly antiquated they really were. I couldn't help wondering how Ireland managed to miss out on the opportunity to replace all of these museum pieces from the vast amounts of US and British stocks knocking about in Europe after the end of WW2 and at bargain-basement prices? I'm sure a few hundred Greyhoound and Staghound AC's could have been picked up at a snip to re-equip the Cavalry reconnaissance squadrons and a hundred M3 Half-tracks could have given the Free State a full Mechanized-Infantry Brigade or one Mech. Bn in each command? If they'd chosen to they could even have adopted the Garand rifle and stole a march on the Brits who soldiered on with the Lee- Enfield into the early 60's. Other items such as uniforms, radios, and engineering plant were also available in vast amounts.
I know that it will all have been about cost and small-minded politicians etc, but what an opportunity missed!
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Don't worry. all will be revealed soon..the definitive book is awaiting print.The test copies have been read and sent back.....almost there
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Landswerk 60
Has anyone had a close look at the two gun barrells on the Landswerk 60 in tth Nat Mus,they both look like mock ups welded onto the turret,the weapons on the other vehicles there seem to be OE in comparison.
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http://www.geocities.com/irisharmore...les/Scania.jpg
Scania APC used by Irish Troops in the Congo.
Originally called the White lady because of the white colour scheme used in the Congo. In the late 70s I saw some 8mm film of one being used in the Congo and it was armed with twin mounted Vickers water cooled MMGs.Last edited by B Inman; 15 December 2004, 04:43.
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they are waiting for the museum to put them in to be finished! plus work shop space is at a premium.
The white lady was swapped for a landsverk armouerd car about five years ago that was picked up by A swedish hercules at baldonnel. There were a few piccys in Cosantoir at the time!
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why is it that the df have allowed two old churchills to rot in the curragh? would they be better in a mueseum or something, because they make the place look like a scrapyard!!!
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npe i think the small tank that you are alluding to is the landswerk L60 that was parked up as gate guardian in front of the cav school. The comet is a larger more serious looking piece of kit.
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Originally posted by SilverAlso, speaking of old armour, I notice that the small tank (name eludes me?) in the Curragh has been repainted and moved to the front of one of the new buildings.
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Rear facing driver? Handy for the cav! Only joking, it was begging to be said, sorry :wink:
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it has a second driver in the rear,facing rearwards naturally,to assist in making a fast getaway...
"full speed ahead..backwards"
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As pictured in the mag (except in black and white!) -
Interestingly, the tank museum's website states that the (Swedish) Lansverks had a "rear facing drivers position" ???
How did that work ?
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Also, speaking of old armour, I notice that the small tank (name eludes me?) in the Curragh has been repainted and moved to the front of one of the new buildings.Last edited by Silver; 13 December 2004, 02:55.
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