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Originally posted by Claudel Hopson View PostTo Hptmurphy
To the best of my knowledge there were two fatalities in the SF260 in two separate accidents with two more A/C written off no fatalities , the four lads in the Dauphin in Tramore and two in Chipmunk C200 back in the 70's. I don't ever recall a fatality in any C172 in all the years I've been in the Air Corps. There have been a few very close calls but God smiled on those pilots on those days
Master 1946 1 dead, Master 1949 3 crashes 3 dead, Seafire 1951 1 dead, Seafire 1953 1 dead, Provost 1957 2 crashes 3 dead, Dove 1961 2 dead+ 2 Dept of Transport officals, Chipmunk 1980 2 dead, Marchetti 1982 1 dead, Marchetti 1990 1 dead. Dauphin 1 crash 4 dead, FR172 2004 1 dead.
I would say that it is a good record.
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To Hptmurphy
To the best of my knowledge there were two fatalities in the SF260 in two separate accidents with two more A/C written off no fatalities , the four lads in the Dauphin in Tramore and two in Chipmunk C200 back in the 70's. I don't ever recall a fatality in any C172 in all the years I've been in the Air Corps. There have been a few very close calls but God smiled on those pilots on those days
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Hi there
further to the Dove crash; there began a trend of writing off lost/stolen equipment, at the time,saying that it had been lost in the Dove crash, until one senior officer is alleged to have looked at the list of all the stuff supposedly aboard the Dove and ended the charade with the comment; "it was a Dove that crashed, not a ****ing Hercules!"
regards
GttC
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Sorry Jectjock I'm not tryuing to be disparaging but the publication of records in relation to some of the crashes the AC had over the years seems to be in the least scant.
I enjoy reading these reports when it comes to civil aviation.. flying in Ireland has a good forum on the issue but I find the AC ones in the main to be glossed over and normally only brought to light when direct questions are asked.
there have many deaths in the DF that go unreprted or the investigations unpublished.. this I find to be a tad disturbing.
There are a couple of naval deaths which I would like to see the reports on but can't source them .
I wonder are these held back because of the families wishes or because the DF are slow to take a look in sid ethe skeleton cupboard.
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Originally posted by hptmurphy View PostJust because the internet doesn't accept they haven't they happened .. spitfire crash...chap killed in a warrior guy killed in a C172 ..some of the crashes don't make headlines.
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Just because the internet doesn't accept they haven't they happened .. spitfire crash...chap killed in a warrior guy killed in a C172 ..some of the crashes don't make headlines.
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comdt liddy,who i think is pictured in the provost thread,his father was tragically killed in an air accident whilst flying as stunt pilot for a movie.
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As an aside, how many fatalities have the Air Corps suffered? I know of one in Fermoy during the Emergency, or maybe after. Local papers had photo of pilots body (local man) being removed from the wreckage.
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AP, thank you for correcting me on the facts of the Shannon crash. I did not research the incident and while I vaguely knew of the crash I had not realised that there were four fatalities. That was a very serious level of fatalities for the IAC and as some other posters have commented I know of no memorial or written recollection of those who perished ...
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Originally posted by hedgehog View PostAre you sure it was Jim Liddy
It would seem strange 2 lads called Liddy were both killed in Air Crashes
Tony K
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Curragh Plains. One of the four Doves was involved in an accident while on calibration work at Shannon on 27January 1961. Four of the five on board were killed, the pilot Capt (later Comdt) Jim Liddy was the sole survivor.
Tony K
Air Corps
Service to the State has been a family tradition for nearly a century. Michael’s great grandfather was involved in the founding of the State and fought in the Civil War. He became a TD in the First Dail. His grandfather became an Air Corps Pilot in 1941, and during the War and flew Spitfires and Vampire Jets for the Air Corps until his untimely death off Wicklow Head, in 1969. He had been flying as a stunt pilot for the Film ‘Darling Lily’.
Graham, Michael’s father, also had the flying bug and started glider flying at an early age and went on to become Ireland’s youngest ever glider instructor, at the age of 16. Throughout the late 1970’s and early 1980’s, Graham could been seen at all the Air Shows dazzling crowds with his powerful display flying and ultra low loops. Graham went on to serve with the Air Corps for 21 years and retired to join a newly formed Air Accident Investigation Unit, based in Dublin.
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Originally posted by Jetjock View PostI tried an online search but there seems to be little info out there. Can you tell us more about the incident Tony, causes etc?
GttC I have often wondered about that too. A possible explanation, two of the four killed were Air Corps, the co pilot and I believe an ATC officer. The other two were Dept of Transport trainees.
Tony K
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I tried an online search but there seems to be little info out there. Can you tell us more about the incident Tony, causes etc?
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Hi Tony
If four died in this crash, why is so little heard of it? I knew it had happened but never got anyother details? Who were they? Why is there no memorial in the Don to them? Why was 248 touted as the Don's worst crash? Any pictures or leads to the incident?
regards
GttC
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