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  • pmtts
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    Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
    It was during the early days of the good friday agreement in any case. I'm guessing 1992. PM arrived from Belfast by Puma. Deff not Mrs Thatch.
    That would have been one of 230 Squadrons Pumas from Aldergrove, im guessing from that era.

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  • Goldie fish
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    It was during the early days of the good friday agreement in any case. I'm guessing 1992. PM arrived from Belfast by Puma. Deff not Mrs Thatch.

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  • combatlogo
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    Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
    I remember when John Major flew in for meetings on the Anglo Irish Agreement. ARW all over the place, all caught on TV with their Fancy DPM and H&Ks, so unlike everyone else at the time.
    Great PR move. Showed those who may have considered chancing their luck that security was as high as it could be.
    The Anglo-Irish Agreement was signed in 1985, 5 years before Mr Grey became PM.

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  • Victor
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    Originally posted by Orion View Post
    What happened to Squadron Leader Laurie? Cold, dank, stone walled room with a fine view of the Thames?
    He took the rap for his principal, surely he should have been given a nice cushy job driving a desk?

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  • pmtts
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    Originally posted by Flyboy View Post
    I know it's easy to be wise after the event, but Charlie as an experiended pilot should have just gone around and had another attempt at the landing or hand control to Laurie for the second attempt, rather than trying to make the landing. Nothing more useless then runway behind you and your wheels not yet down when landing !!!
    Somewhere on the net is the full RAF Board of Inquiry report. It makes for interesting reading and it's in pdf format.

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  • Flyboy
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    I know it's easy to be wise after the event, but Charlie as an experiended pilot should have just gone around and had another attempt at the landing or hand control to Laurie for the second attempt, rather than trying to make the landing. Nothing more useless then runway behind you and your wheels not yet down when landing !!!

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  • GoneToTheCanner
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    Hi there
    From what I've read, Charles turned in his own license as a tacit admittance that it had been his fault.Unfortunately, Laurie took the hit because he did not intervene sooner.Still, there's always civvie flying...
    regards
    GttC

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  • Connaught Stranger
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    Originally posted by pmtts View Post
    Well heres my ugly mut on the stairs of ZE701 at RAF Northolt!.

    I cant see the dog! the camo must be good!!

    mut = hound dog

    mug = face, fizzog, etc, etc,

    Connaught Stranger

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  • Orion
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    Originally posted by pmtts View Post
    Im aware that in 2007 he was ex- Squadron Leader Laurie!.

    He continued to fly after the incident but may have lost the position of an instructing or supervising pilot.
    He must have been fairly senior (length of service wise) to have been posted to the Royal Flight. It would be a shame if his record was blemished by an incident for which he very probably had zero control.

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  • pmtts
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    Originally posted by Orion View Post
    What happened to Squadron Leader Laurie?


    Im aware that in 2007 he was ex- Squadron Leader Laurie!.

    He continued to fly after the incident but may have lost the position of an instructing or supervising pilot.
    Last edited by pmtts; 27 February 2008, 22:50.

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  • Orion
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    Originally posted by pmtts View Post
    Yehh but it was the poor Captain that got the rap for it, not Charlie!.


    The captain, Squadron Leader Graham Laurie, was negligent "in the final stages of the flight".

    Charlie since then has not got behind the controls of any Royal Flight aircraft!.

    What happened to Squadron Leader Laurie?

    Cold, dank, stone walled room with a fine view of the Thames?

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  • pmtts
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    Originally posted by Victor View Post

    Just watch for when its Prince Charles, he's know for putting the aircraft down hard ... and breaking it
    Yehh but it was the poor Captain that got the rap for it, not Charlie!.

    Prince Charles was not blamed because, despite holding the RAF rank of group captain, he was regarded as a passenger who was invited to fly the aircraft. The inquiry can pass judgement on the crew.

    It was not in dispute, however, that the Prince was at the controls of the BAe 146 when it landed awkwardly and too fast in high winds on the Isle of Islay. slewed off the Port Ellen runway and came to a halt with its nose buried in mud. Six crew and five passengers were on board but no one was injured.

    The RAF report concluded the jet was flying 32 knots (40mph) too fast when it crossed the runway threshold. Only 509m (557yds) of the 1,245m-long (1,362yd) strip remained when all the aircraft's wheels touched down, causing a tyre to burst and another to deflate.


    The captain, Squadron Leader Graham Laurie, was negligent "in the final stages of the flight".

    Charlie since then has not got behind the controls of any Royal Flight aircraft!.
    Last edited by pmtts; 27 February 2008, 21:40.

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  • Victor
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    OK, second answer. The fat people sit in big seats, the not so fat people sit in the standard seats. Except for the guy sitting next to you.

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  • hedgehog
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    you swine victor

    you robbed my joke

    I demand satisfaction

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  • Victor
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    Originally posted by pmtts View Post
    For obvious reasons I will not go into detail as to who sits where and in what section of the aircraft.
    I bet the pilots sit up front! :D

    Just watch for when its Prince Charles, he's know for putting the aircraft down hard ... and breaking it

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