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  • Helicopters for overseas. . . .yeah right!!!

    Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
    The seats in this aircraft are side facing, as in all military aircraft. However for civil purposes, seats must be front or rear facing.
    Thats the simple explanation.
    Hang on a second. Are you saying that because of whatever rules are in place, the Government may only lease non-military helicopters, less well suited for the purposes for which they're supposed to be leased for?

    NTM
    Driver, tracks, troops.... Drive and adjust!!

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    According to Jane's, the Canadians have leased MI-8s from a Toronto(?) based company, the roles will include troop transport but will not include ground attack. They will be flown by civilian pilots (experienced former military). So it seems it is possible to be able to lease such helicopters for troop transport.

    After I posted this I saw this on Alert5 http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...ub=CTVNewsAt11

    IAS
    Last edited by ias; 10 December 2008, 21:15.

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    • #3
      Millions of soldiers have been transported safely in sideways seats in fixed-wing aircraft and rotary aircraft.Now, someone decides that it's a problem? Either change the seats around or accept them as they are.
      regards
      GttC

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      • #4
        Billions of people have been transported in land, sea and air vehicles on side facing seats. However modern safety theory is that side and rear facing is best and so civilian transport must not be side facing. Military vehicles are exempted from these rules because the need to rapidly debus out weighs the safety requirement.
        Without supplies no army is brave.

        —Frederick the Great,

        Instructions to his Generals, 1747

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
          Millions of soldiers have been transported safely in sideways seats in fixed-wing aircraft and rotary aircraft.Now, someone decides that it's a problem? Either change the seats around or accept them as they are.
          regards
          GttC
          If I remember are the seats in Pumas side facing?

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          • #6
            http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/h...had/html/2.stm
            Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret Mead

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sofa View Post
              If I remember are the seats in Pumas side facing?
              Yes they are, so are the chinook, sea king, lynx and merlin seats. Actually come to think of it ive not been in a military helicopter with forward facing seats!
              Faugh A Ballagh

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Turncoat View Post
                Yes they are, so are the chinook, sea king, lynx and merlin seats. Actually come to think of it ive not been in a military helicopter with forward facing seats!
                That would be all not irish military helicopters
                Don't stand there GAWPING, like you've never seen the hand of God BEFORE!!

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                • #9
                  But the Mi8 we leased was not a military heli.


                  Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Joshua View Post
                    We removed a possibly controversial picture from this thread.
                    The picture was taken from another website and could be seen as compromising op sec.

                    We always err on the side of caution.
                    ....
                    Was this the aerial picture of the camp at Goz Beida? (Can't remember if that was it) If so, that was taken from (and can still be found on) an official government website and that means it must have been approved for public release.

                    If it was another pic, I've said nothing.
                    Last edited by gvg; 11 December 2008, 20:53.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by paul View Post
                      That would be all not irish military helicopters
                      alouettes had foward facing seat...
                      But there's no danger
                      It's a professional career
                      Though it could be arranged
                      With just a word in Mr. Churchill's ear
                      If you're out of luck you're out of work
                      We could send you to johannesburg.

                      (Elvis Costello, Olivers Army)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by turbocalves View Post
                        alouettes had foward facing seat...
                        What seats???
                        "We will hold out until our last bullet is spent. Could do with some whiskey"
                        Radio transmission, siege of Jadotville DR Congo. September 1961.
                        Illegitimi non carborundum

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                        • #13
                          Well the crew had to sit somewhere!
                          Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                          • #14
                            seats, will not help you when you hit the ground at speed

                            folks this PC going over the top again
                            hurry up and wait, are you back yet

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                            • #15
                              Let me say it again.The Mi-8, like all Russian aircraft, is certified as both a civil and military helicopter.If the seats don't suit a particular EU requirement, then change them round.It's not hard to do.Just tell the people who are supplying them to fit forward or backward facing seats and they'll do it.They'll fit them upside-down or with yellow spots, if you like.Just don't deny the troops usable aircraft because of a bureaucratic hitch.Failing that, hire helicopters from the oil-rig companies as they have a plentiful supply of them (Super Pumas/S61/Bell 212) with fwd/aft facing seats.
                              regards
                              GttC

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