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    A quick question to those who can answer.

    I saw online today that an Irish SAR chopper had attended in the search for a missing man in County Down.

    My question is, who picks up the tab? is it paid for by Authorities in the North or are fee's waivered as a sort of joint you scratch my back senario.

  • #2
    Don't know, but I did see a feature on the news a few month's ago about cross
    border rescue agencies teaming up for a training exercise....
    "Well, stone me! We've had cocaine, bribery and Arsenal scoring two goals at home. But just when you thought there were truly no surprises left in football, Vinnie Jones turns out to be an international player!" (Jimmy Greaves)!"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Truck Driver View Post
      Don't know, but I did see a feature on the news a few month's ago about cross
      border rescue agencies teaming up for a training exercise....
      Yea it was down the road from me in Ballykinlar

      I don't know who picks up the tab but the coast guard heli frequently goes north to help. I live near the Mournes where they're called out often and I have a mate on the lifeboat who says they have dealings with them on a regular basis.
      Theirs not to make reply,
      Theirs not to reason why,
      Theirs but to do and die:
      Into the valley of Death
      Rode the six hundred.

      The Charge of the Light Brigade

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      • #4
        That would explain where they were coming from, we saw the chopper returning to Dublin at about 1 (or rather shortly before)

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        • #5
          they have done it often enough for us

          so I would imagine that

          no bills are actually sent

          but thats only my handsome opinion
          Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
          Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
          The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere***
          The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
          The best lack all conviction, while the worst
          Are full of passionate intensity.

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          • #6
            The contract is a fixed fee as far as I know. It includes a spare aircraft being available, maintainance, fuel, training with other agencies etc.

            I don't know but I'd say that as a declared asset they have to respond when tasked by MRCC.

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            • #7
              Don't sailors need to pay for this? Or rather their insurance does.
              Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret Mead

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              • #8
                Speaking of SAR, William Wales, future King of engerland, Is currently learning how to be an SAR pilot at Valley.


                Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Goldie fish View Post
                  Speaking of SAR, William Wales, future King of engerland, Is currently learning how to be an SAR pilot at Valley.

                  A short vid here in the Sea King..

                  http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/Vi...afShawbury.htm

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                  • #10
                    They also have a medivac role,they fly divers suffering from the bends to a decompression chamber in Craigavon Hospital Co Armagh.

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                    • #11
                      Hi there
                      The Dept of Foreign Affairs deals with inter-State payments for the transit of State assets such as military aircraft or SAR resources; if a French aircraft comes on a visit and takes fuel off the Don, they aren't charged for it, there and then. All such bills are totted up and, so I'm told, exchanged at the end of the year.A lot of it is simply back-scratching, ie, you do ten training flights over here and we'll do ten over there or it is not charged for at all, being absorbed into the costs of the State. At one time, it was a tradition that SAR, being a humanitarian task, was not charged for, regardless of whether borders were crossed or not.I don't know what the case is, now.
                      regards
                      GttC

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                      • #12
                        What border for SAR.....

                        Not sure who pays but I am lead to believe its a free of charge agreement, Dublin and Sligo aircraft do lots of jobs in british sar region's (in Ireland). I think its more of a Belfast CG contact Dublin CG for a help out and vis-versa situation, who cares as long as the job is done. Many a sar job has been done by both sides of the water by there counterparts as a "lets help out"..
                        Need I mention who done stand-by at night in the south of england when the 139 had some minor problem's!!!!!!!!!!!
                        Although I have walked in the valley of the shadows of death I fear no evil...

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                        • #13
                          As do RN from Culdross (I think) on edge of Irish SAR Region.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SARMAN View Post
                            Need I mention who done stand-by at night in the south of england when the 139 had some minor problem's!!!!!!!!!!!
                            I remember seeing the S61N at Daedalus airfield !!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pmtts View Post
                              A quick question to those who can answer.

                              I saw online today that an Irish SAR chopper had attended in the search for a missing man in County Down.

                              My question is, who picks up the tab? is it paid for by Authorities in the North or are fee's waivered as a sort of joint you scratch my back senario.
                              There was a search done by the Irish Naval service for two weeks off Kilkeel in Northen Ireland a few years ago, when a massive search was organised for the Green family fishing boat which went down. I believe it was requested by one of the new Sine Fein politicians at the time, A women I believe, but cant remember her name.

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