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Is this just idle interest or do you want to make an irate phone call to Joe Duffy? Working on a presentation?
EC135 T2 - Garda not Air Corps
AS355N - Garda not Air Corps
PBN Defender - Garda not Air Corps
So scratch them. They were not paid for by the DoD.
Casa CN235 - Part funded by the EU
Beech Craft Kingair - Possibly part funded, not sure if the one in service purchased 29 years ago took part in the maritime role, but the other King Airs did.
The Cessna/Reims 172's are in service for 30+ years now, no idea what they cost, ditto the Gulfstream IV which came into service in the early 90's.
However - the AW139, LearJet 45, Pilatus PC-9M, EC135 P2 purchases were all covered extensively in the press over the last few years. If you're actually interested in this subject and not a troll, I find it strange you apparently didn't have a look at google.
All purchases are covered there - the prices for each tender are public knowledge.
To get comparative prices you need to adjust the old prices to allow for inflation etc. The Prices of the Heli fleet is covered in great detail elsewhere on this website. A quick search will show the way.
Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.
"Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
Like everything else they are only worth what people are willing to pay for them.
Firstly some of the fleet, in monetary terms, are pretty much worthless. 172s, SKA 200 etc.
In the case of the newer aircraft the purchase cost is irrelevant because as soon as they undertake military maintenance they cannot be sold directly back into the civil market. This can only be done either as experimental aircraft (Very restricted) or after very expensive overhauls with all non civil certified equipment removed. This makes them unattractive in the big boys market.
WRT military to military sales it is very unlikely that another government would take on second hand equipment unless it is the exact spec they want or they have no other way of getting the airframes, i.e out of production equipment.
While a 'book' figure could be put on each type all in all it would be very inaccurate and unreflective of the sale value of military equipment.
No journo here. I’m just interested in planes (not that I know that much mind you). Contrary to ringing up Joe Duffy and complaining about the money we spend, or should I say, have spent on our fleet, I actually think we really need to invest in the Air Corps. I think a better funded Air Corp would be a great asset to our peace keeping missions – particularly those in Africa.
If anything, I think the defence forces are grossly underfunded. The closure of the barracks in Longford and in Monaghan spring to mind.
If anything, I think the defence forces are grossly underfunded. The closure of the barracks in Longford and in Monaghan spring to mind.
You cant be serious, Half nine to half twelve then two to half four, half day wednesday for "sports" It's the Navy boys that need the spending. Neglected for far to long
VosperM1
Apologies for the ever so slightly cynical welcome An Coimeádach, I'm just expecting moral outrage to reach breaking point and the DF are an easy target.
Apologies for the ever so slightly cynical welcome An Coimeádach, I'm just expecting moral outrage to reach breaking point and the DF are an easy target.
No worries. I think the DoD is one of the departments that can least afford any cuts. Unlike Health, the DoD is not crippled with excess administration costs and the money that it does receive seems to be spent well. I think it deserves more funding particularly where overseas missions are concerned.
Good point about Naval funding VosperM1. However, the Naval service is no different from any other part of the defence forces – it’s all so badly funded. I think the Air Corps, if well kitted out with some fancy planes, would be a great help to the missions in Africa.
Am I right in saying that the Air Corps doesn’t currently serve abroad?
No worries. I think the DoD is one of the departments that can least afford any cuts. Unlike Health, the DoD is not crippled with excess administration costs and the money that it does receive seems to be spent well. I think it deserves more funding particularly where overseas missions are concerned.
Good point about Naval funding VosperM1. However, the Naval service is no different from any other part of the defence forces – it’s all so badly funded. I think the Air Corps, if well kitted out with some fancy planes, would be a great help to the missions in Africa.
Am I right in saying that the Air Corps doesn’t currently serve abroad?
Well they could probably cut back on the Dept itself I think the ratio of civil servants to military is above european average
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