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    Defence Forces Equipment.

    176. Deputy Bernard J. Durkan asked the Minister for Defence the number and category of aircraft available to the air corps; the extent to which training, equipment and technology is comparable to that of other such forces; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [16088/10]

    Minister for Defence (Deputy Tony Killeen): There are a total of 27 aircraft in operational service with the Air Corps at present, comprising 10 helicopters and 17 fixed wing aircraft. The types of the aircraft are set out in the following tabular statement, which will be circulated with the Official Report.

    As the Deputy is aware, a very significant level of investment in new equipment for the Air Corps has taken place in recent years. The comprehensive investment programme included the delivery of the Pilatus training aircraft at a total cost of €60m, the acquisition of two light utility EC 135 helicopters from Eurocopter S.A.S. at a cost of €12.8m, the acquisition of six utility AW 139 helicopters from Agusta Westland, Italy at a cost of €75m and a major mid life upgrade on the two CASA maritime patrol aircraft at a cost of €16.5m.

    On the issue of Air Corps training and technology, I am satisfied that Air Corps training techniques and the technologies involved are up to date in all respects. The Air Corps training plan is structured to provide the capabilities needed to execute the roles assigned to the Air Corps by Government and any comparison with other Air Forces is not relevant.

    TYPE OF AIR CORPS AIRCRAFT IN OPERATIONAL SERVICE
    Aircraft TypeHelicopters Number in Service
    Agusta Westland - AW 139 6
    Eurocopter - EC 135 4*
    Aircraft TypeFixed Wing
    Cessna 5
    Gulfstream IV 1
    CASA Maritime Patrol Aircraft 2
    Defender* 1
    Learjet 1
    Pilatus 7
    Total 28

    * Two from four EC 135s and the Defender fixed-wing aircraft are owned by the Department of Justice, Equality and Law Reform but operated by the Air Corps as part of the Garda Air Support Unit.
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  • #2
    Aren't the Garda Air Support Unit a/c in blue/white?
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    • #3
      Just a visual idea of the size of fleet.

      All 3d models available of interweb for free
      "The Question is not: how far you will take this? The Question is do you possess the constitution to go as far as is needed?"

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      • #4
        Looks pretty meager when they are lined up like that.

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        • #5
          Most distressing that as cheap(comparatively) as they are to buy and operate we are now down to only 5 cessnas. Why is it that they don't believe in attrition replacement?


          Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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          • #6
            Because they are past their sell by date

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            • #7
              Speaking of the Cessnas. I have seen at a seventies employment fair in the RDS -

              At a stand by the Air Corps, they had one of there new Cessnas and it had a rocket pod attached

              under each wing. one and only time I have seen this set up. Always felt this was a mock up ?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by sofa View Post
                Speaking of the Cessnas. I have seen at a seventies employment fair in the RDS -

                At a stand by the Air Corps, they had one of there new Cessnas and it had a rocket pod attached

                under each wing. one and only time I have seen this set up. Always felt this was a mock up ?
                Ive seen a picture of Cessna 243 with rocket pods.
                243 is the only 172K the AC have the rest are all 172H.

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                • #9
                  The Cessnas used to be used for training for FLR pilots including rocket firing.

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                  • #10
                    With the help of Google I found this old pic.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Oriel View Post
                      Ive seen a picture of Cessna 243 with rocket pods.
                      243 is the only 172K the AC have the rest are all 172H.
                      Think you're mistaken there, 243 was a K alright, but it was a fully civilian spec AFAIK.

                      The H models however, had an armaments panel for rocket pods fitted.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Peon View Post
                        Think you're mistaken there, 243 was a K alright, but it was a fully civilian spec AFAIK.

                        The H models however, had an armaments panel for rocket pods fitted.
                        No mistake it was 243 with the rocket pods.

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                        • #13
                          Hi all,
                          243 was a 172K, with a 195 hp Continental IO-360 engine. It had a more modern interior, ie, better seats and trim and slightly better radios. It's wings were slightly better faired so it had a rated top speed higher than it's stablemates, despite them having a 210hp engine. It also had an old-style pointed spinner whereas the others had rounded spinners.It was known by all as the "Executive Cessna" becuse it was smarter than all the rest and had a glossy coat of paint where the others had matt paint.It was never armed, as far as I know.
                          regards
                          GttC

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Oriel View Post
                            Ive seen a picture of Cessna 243 with rocket pods.
                            243 is the only 172K the AC have the rest are all 172H.
                            Found it.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Oriel View Post
                              Ive seen a picture of Cessna 243 with rocket pods.
                              243 is the only 172K the AC have the rest are all 172H.
                              "Was", sadly destroyed a number of years back.

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