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    The Air Corps flew almost 2,300 missions last year, including 69 Air Ambulance Missions, often involving the transportation of critically ill patients between medical facilities in Ireland and the UK for vital live-saving treatment. The Air Corps also conducts Maritime Patrols in conjuction with the Naval Service, as well as flying the Garda Air Support Unit (GASU) and providing “top cover” for security operations.
    Last edited by DeV; 4 May 2011, 18:56.

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    • #3
      Operational missions or does that include training flights?

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      • #4
        Operational

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        • #5
          That's six operational missions a day for every day of the year.. Seems a lot.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Helihead View Post
            That's six operational missions a day for every day of the year.. Seems a lot.
            Many GASU heli missions in the Dublin area would be short enough in duration, I would guess that these push the numbers up.
            "The dolphins were monkeys that didn't like the land, walked back to the water, went back from the sand."

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            • #7
              Don't forget if one Casa does one MARPAT per day, it can represent six airborne hours, whereas a PC-9 doing a training flight might just stay up for 90 minutes, but may fly three times that day, so all is not equal in terms of mission duration. The use of the word mission implies that a flight is non-routine, whereas many of the flights are just routine training flights or airtests or simple carriage of persons from one place to another. In other words, nothing special.
              regards
              GttC

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              • #8
                Originally posted by FMolloy View Post
                Many GASU heli missions in the Dublin area would be short enough in duration, I would guess that these push the numbers up.
                Fair point, forgot about GASU.

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                • #9
                  Be interesting to compare it with the daily CHC mission list?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pure Hover View Post
                    Be interesting to compare it with the daily CHC mission list?
                    PH, just to correct you it would be IRCG missions, which would be about four a day from four aircraft practising SAR disciplines only,lnot including taskings. Expect the missions to significantly increase with the arrival of the 92's. Mentioning 92's, I believe two arrived into Sligo for fuel the other day to do a job way out west on behalf of the UK, one providing guess what....top cover.

                    All we need now is availability figures and serviceability stats for the aircraft to be made public.
                    Last edited by Helihead; 7 May 2011, 07:38.

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                    • #11
                      Define operational. "cashies" are operational, so is GASU, so is MARPAT, so is Army co-op, so is MATS.Is a MATS positioning flight "operational", by military standards? By any standard, of course it is. Training flights are certainly operational, because individuals and aircraft are being operated and placed at risk on behalf of the State.Six a day is nothing. 6 Cessna flights could cover that.
                      regards
                      GttC

                      there are, of course, some flights which are a waste of space, such as transporting Ministers to open off-licenses, etc,etc but they are included in the catch-all of training

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                      • #12
                        I'd say that training flights aren't included, they normally aren't.

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                        • #13
                          A more accurate way of doing things would be an individual breakdown of annual operational flight hours per airframe.
                          Example the last operational flight hours for IRCG aircraft I saw and were for public viewing was approx 3500 hrs for the year, which breaks down to.....875 hrs per airframe. Are figures available for the IAC ? Maybe PH could help.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Helihead View Post
                            PH, just to correct you it would be IRCG missions, which would be about four a day from four aircraft practising SAR disciplines only,lnot including taskings. Expect the missions to significantly increase with the arrival of the 92's. Mentioning 92's, I believe two arrived into Sligo for fuel the other day to do a job way out west on behalf of the UK, one providing guess what....top cover.

                            All we need now is availability figures and serviceability stats for the aircraft to be made public.
                            So IRCG training flights are MISSIONS as well! Why would the missions significantly increase with the arrival of the S92's? . Are u expecting more rescue's? Presume you mean much greater training commitment which could be expected.

                            Sorry but have to ask the question why 2 UK Coastguard a/c had to perform a rescue off the Coast of Ireland. Why couldn't IRCG respond to this? Probably due to range maybe or the fact that the UK still have responsibility for the SAR NW area.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Helihead View Post
                              A more accurate way of doing things would be an individual breakdown of annual operational flight hours per airframe.
                              Example the last operational flight hours for IRCG aircraft I saw and were for public viewing was approx 3500 hrs for the year, which breaks down to.....875 hrs per airframe. Are figures available for the IAC ? Maybe PH could help.
                              The 2009 figures are available.

                              CITs
                              Cessna - 335 missions - 945.75 flight hours
                              AW139 - 13 missions - 21.75 hrs
                              Pilatus - 5 missions - 9.42 hrs

                              GASU
                              EC135 - 1954 missions - 1,795.85 hrs
                              Defender - 188 missions- 359.38 hrs

                              Air Ambulance
                              CASA - 27 missions - 96.33 hrs
                              Learjet - 8 missions - 22.17 hrs
                              AW139 - 45 missions - 124 hrs

                              Other ATCA
                              AW139 - 18 missions - 48.75 hrs
                              EC135 - 18 missions - 43.08 hrs
                              Cessna - 14 missions - 54.5 hrs

                              SAR
                              AW139 - 6 missions - 20.25 hrs
                              CASA - 4 missions - 15.25 hrs

                              Maritime Patrols
                              CASA - 280 missions - 1,558.7 hrs
                              Cessna - 21 missions - 90 hrs
                              EC135 - 3 missions - 11.75 hrs
                              AW139 - 2 missions - 5.5 hrs

                              MATS
                              Gulfstream - 42 missions - 220.42 hrs
                              Learjet - 82 mission - 239.17 hrs
                              Beechcraft - 1 mission - 0.75 hrs
                              CASA - 1 mission - 0.67 hrs
                              EC135 - 4 missions - 7.67 hrs
                              AW139 - 19 missions - 30.92 hrs

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