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    HI All

    I got a chuckle out of this article. Mick Wallace would be aligned to the "dont spend a penny on defence brigade" and would be up in arms along with PANA and the Shannon protesters, looney left, etc if we even decided to buy some jet trainers let alone anything more warlike.

    He's giving out because we dont enforce out neutrality by checking US and other aircraft when they land in irish Airports. The Tanaiste replied with:

    “Permission is not granted for the conduct of military operations in Irish air space,” said Ms Burton. “This is Ireland’s policy and is strictly enforced.” LOL can you imagine if she went on to say "by the squadron of 12 new F16s we have just purchased for the air corps complete with an array of modern avionics target identification and acquisition systems and air to air missiles"

    ha ha seriously I really love that line "This is Irelands policy and is strictly enforced" - By what seagulls and harsh words?


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    • #3
      Ireland has not ratified the Hague Convention on Neutrality or any of the other ones on conflict or warfare etc.

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      • #4
        Mr Wallace said unless there were inspections and monitoring, Ireland was incapable of knowing it was not complicit in war crimes in the Middle East where the US army had illegally occupied sovereign states and committed umpteen war crimes.
        Just a bit curious as to how the esteemed Mr Wallace would envisage the inspections and monitoring being carried out.

        Aircraft arriving from US on route to ME. Full of young chaps on their way to war. Possibly their first trip but no doubt a few old sweats on board also.
        • Search aircraft for WMD.
        • Interrogate all phones, laptops, ipads, cameras etc. etc. for evidence of war-crimes committed on previous tours.
        • Interrogate old sweats using suitable stern language and ban them from duty free until they tell all about war-crimes committed on previous tours.
        • Charter a second aircraft to fly chaperons out with troops to monitor them during their 12 month tour to ensure no war-crimes are committed on tour.

        Aircraft arriving from ME on route to US. Full of old men on their way home from war. Though with lots of empty seats around them due to the fact many of their comrades are dead and many more have been maimed for life and required alternative transport.
        • Search aircraft for WMD.
        • Interrogate all phones, laptops, ipads, cameras etc. etc. for evidence of war-crimes committed on tour.
        • Interrogate all on board using suitably stern language and ban them from duty free until they tell all about war-crimes committed on tour.
        • Hand out medals to the chaperons who had to endured 12 months of Tim Hortons coffee, Krispy Cream Doughnuts, Ice cream on tap, Rap Music and Death Metal in the recreation areas and for their enduring effort to ensure no war-crimes were committed in the Camp Victory Defac (Though there must have been some law against some of the shit served up there) while managing to stay well away from "The War".

        Carry on Mr Wallace, in fact why don't you volunteer to go on the next available flight to wherever that may be.
        We travel not for trafficking alone,
        By hotter winds our fiery hearts are fanned,
        For lust of knowing what should not be known,
        We make the Golden Journey to Samarkand.

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        • #5
          Maybe someone should have a word in Mick's ear to the effect that we're not or never have been really neutral and consequently Claire Daly and himself won't be allowed to search US military aircraft in Shannon. Should a Russian troop tranport attempt to land though; well then you're on Mick.

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          • #6
            I'd say if MW actually got as far as the door of a USAF aircraft, he'd find himself staring down the barrel of an M-9.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
              I'd say if MW actually got as far as the door of a USAF aircraft, he'd find himself staring down the barrel of an M-9.
              I would prefer if he got a good boot in his big tax cheating developer head from a mysterious leg that suddenly appeared from nowhere out a door. A gun in the face would give him credibility amongst the anti american pinko's.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Banner View Post
                HI All

                I got a chuckle out of this article. Mick Wallace would be aligned to the "dont spend a penny on defence brigade" and would be up in arms along with PANA and the Shannon protesters, looney left, etc if we even decided to buy some jet trainers let alone anything more warlike.

                He's giving out because we dont enforce out neutrality by checking US and other aircraft when they land in irish Airports. The Tanaiste replied with:

                “Permission is not granted for the conduct of military operations in Irish air space,” said Ms Burton. “This is Ireland’s policy and is strictly enforced.” LOL can you imagine if she went on to say "by the squadron of 12 new F16s we have just purchased for the air corps complete with an array of modern avionics target identification and acquisition systems and air to air missiles"

                ha ha seriously I really love that line "This is Irelands policy and is strictly enforced" - By what seagulls and harsh words?

                http://www.irishtimes.com/news/polit...ions-1.2026349
                if the theving f£$ker payed his tax's then children's cancer wards may not have to close down.

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                • #9
                  Hoping the next time they jump the fence in Shannon they become FOD. Them High Bypass turbofans can come out of nowhere....

                  For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by na grohmití View Post
                    Hoping the next time they jump the fence in Shannon they become FOD. Them High Bypass turbofans can come out of nowhere....

                    Lots of space available there to relocate the shrunken Air Corps!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Rhodes View Post
                      Ireland has not ratified the Hague Convention on Neutrality or any of the other ones on conflict or warfare etc.
                      In fairness only 33 countries have ratified (only 3 since 1922). Another 17 countries signed it in 1907 but haven't ratified it yet.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tempest View Post
                        Lots of space available there to relocate the shrunken Air Corps!
                        Naw, not when it gets leased to the USAF as an airbase...
                        "We will hold out until our last bullet is spent. Could do with some whiskey"
                        Radio transmission, siege of Jadotville DR Congo. September 1961.
                        Illegitimi non carborundum

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                        • #13
                          What a gobshite.
                          “Can I have my rope ladder back?,” Mick Wallace asks judge in Shannon case
                          Mick Wallace and Clare Daly are in court over their alleged illegal entrance into Shannon Airport last year
                          INDEPENDENT TD MICK Wallace today asked a district court judge ‘Can I have my rope ladder back?’

                          Dressed in his trademark pink shirt, Wallace made the request at Ennis District Court after the rope ladder used by Clare Daly TD and the Wexford deputy to scale the perimeter fence at Shannon Airport last July was presented in evidence.

                          In reply, Judge Patrick Durcan said that he wouldn’t deal with the request now and Mr Wallace could ask for it again later in the day.

                          Wallace (59) of Clontarf Rd, Clontarf, Dublin and Clare Daly (46) of Elmwood Drive, Swords, Dublin appeared in court today concerning their alleged illegal entrance into a restricted area of Shannon Airport on 22 July last year.

                          During proceedings, the judge warned that he doesn’t wish his court to take on the role of the Skibbereen Eagle – a now defunct newspaper which is best known for an 1898 editorial where it warned that it would keep its eye on the Emperor of Russia.

                          The judge made the comment after solicitor for Wallace and Daly, Gareth Noble, said that the two were at Shannon last July after the Irish Government had failed their requests to search military planes at Shannon.

                          Judge Durcan told Mr Noble that he didn’t want his court to embark on a trawl or trail of issues that are totally irrelevant to the case.

                          In his expert evidence on behalf of the two, security analyst Dr Tom Clonan said that 2.25 million US troops have passed through Shannon since 2002 making it the largest invading force to have ever passed through Ireland.

                          Clonan said that Shannon is a virtual forward airbase of the US military and is an essential fulcrum in its logistics operations.

                          Clonan agreed with Noble that if the shoe was on the other foot, Shannon would be a target for the US.

                          Police evidence

                          Earlier, CCTV footage was shown to the court of the two standing on a grass verge located inside the airfield and involved in conversation with airport police.

                          Airport Police Officer (APO) Declan Vaughan told the court that when he came across Wallace and Daly inside the perimeter fence on 22 July, Wallace requested the assistance of the Irish army to inspect a US military plane nearby.

                          Two US military planes were parked on the runway nearby.

                          Wallace told the court that the reason that they entered the airport airfield was to search the military planes, because they were not being searched by the Irish authorities.

                          Sgt Donal O’Rourke told the court that on meeting with the two, he was told by Wallace that they “entered the airport in order to make a political statement regarding the use of Shannon Airport for military purposes and to bring it to the attention of the Minister because the minister is not listening”.

                          Sgt O’Rourke said that Daly sustained a cut to her lip and her two fingers when coming over the airport perimeter fence. He said that she declined any medical assistance offered.

                          APO Declan Vaughan told the court that all US military aircraft at Shannon airport receive the protection of the Irish army.

                          The State is to call six witness and the two deputies are to call five witnesses.

                          Those in court to support the two deputies include Margaretta D’Arcy who has already served two periods in jail – one lasting three months – after refusing to sign a bond that she not enter restricted zones at Shannon.

                          Former UN Assistant Secretary General, Denis Halliday is also in court.

                          The case continues.


                          Oddly for the journal, the comments are mostly unsupportive of this particular oxygen thief and his concubine.
                          For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                          • #14
                            Expert evidence hahaha
                            Everyone who's ever loved you was wrong.

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                            • #15
                              That NAMA developer should pay his vat so we can keep children's cancer wards open, say sorry to the workers he was diddling out of there pension contributions.

                              O and wear a condom. Jesus he must have a strong stomach
                              Last edited by sofa; 24 February 2015, 21:25.

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