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  • Looks like the Russians are at it again.

    It was the year of fire...the year of destruction...the year we took back what was ours.
    It was the year of rebirth...the year of great sadness...the year of pain...and the year of joy.
    It was a new age...It was the end of history.
    It was the year everything changed.

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    • Two more Typhoons just launched from RAF Lossiemouth with a Tanker as the Russians are at it again

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      • Two days in a row now

        Here's the track from yesterday's day trip.

        It was the year of fire...the year of destruction...the year we took back what was ours.
        It was the year of rebirth...the year of great sadness...the year of pain...and the year of joy.
        It was a new age...It was the end of history.
        It was the year everything changed.

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        • MADRAS49 - a QRA tanker - left BZN about an hour ago and went north...

          Hello again by the way - all well?

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          • Shannon High Level warning about unknown aircraft and to keep a look out, I presume the Typhoons will have their Transponders switched on when the reach the Russians

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            • Shannon ATC reporting unknown Russian Aircraft 20 miles behind a Delta flight to Heathrow another Aircraft told the Russian Aircraft will pass will pass 4 miles behind him.

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              • Originally posted by ropebag View Post
                MADRAS49 - a QRA tanker - left BZN about an hour ago and went north...
                While inbound to Cork earlier today at 12.30ish passed overhead a tanker and two Typhoons(one attached) close to the UK/Irish FIR boundary heading south west.

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                • Here's todays track of the Russian day trippers.

                  It was the year of fire...the year of destruction...the year we took back what was ours.
                  It was the year of rebirth...the year of great sadness...the year of pain...and the year of joy.
                  It was a new age...It was the end of history.
                  It was the year everything changed.

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                  • That's a bit close to the actual airspace.
                    For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                    • Was there any Russian delegation at the recent defence conference we had?
                      At least it gives the QRA crews something to do and they get to shadow the whole range of Russian long range aircraft this week.

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                      • It does make one wonder what has been transiting the west coast under the water that can’t be seen - have they been following something?
                        'He died who loved to live,' they'll say,
                        'Unselfishly so we might have today!'
                        Like hell! He fought because he had to fight;
                        He died that's all. It was his unlucky night.
                        http://www.salamanderoasis.org/poems...nnis/luck.html

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                        • Originally posted by CTU View Post
                          Here's todays track of the Russian day trippers.

                          That is close; wonder if the Healy-Rae's could have turned on the Kingdom of Kerry Imperial Air Defence Force's MEADS targeting radar to spook the Russians?

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                          • https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...01455?mode=amp

                            In the absence of even a plan for our own assets, should we let NATO or a neutral EU air force protect the western approach?
                            For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                            • Originally posted by Flamingo View Post
                              It does make one wonder what has been transiting the west coast under the water that can’t be seen - have they been following something?
                              The russian embassy will say they are exercising their right to transit international airspace, as they have been doing for years.
                              For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                              • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
                                https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...01455?mode=amp

                                In the absence of even a plan for our own assets, should we let NATO or a neutral EU air force protect the western approach?
                                Why would they be champing at the bit to do so, only waiting on an invite?

                                France is fighting a war in Saharan Africa, while also deploying in eastern Europe. Norway, Sweden and Denmark have their hands full in the Baltic and north Atlantic, and Germany's military has collapsed.

                                You could ask the EU for a collective response, and frame it as a problem effecting all of Europe's economy and security, and say that it's not a problem with Irish doctrine/budget/politics, it's simply about geography (this has an element of truth about it, and is a very similar argument to that which Italy and Greece made during the migration crisis) - Europe may agree to something along similar lines to the Icelandic, Baltic and Black Sea air policing operations, but it won't be free for Ireland, they would require (and actually need) a significant financial contribution - or a return of favours: an Irish Bn Gp to Mali....

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