Defending the Irish airspace

[Anzac]

They are empty airframes with nothing installed and are worth only a very small fraction of the cost of a completed Gripen, most likely less than a $1m per unit.

Less engines, avionics and canopy iirc.

[Anzac]

Value for F/A-18 taken from Navy Budget request APN_BA1-4 for 2021 (page 49 of 276)
https://www.secnav.navy.mil/fmc/fmb/...BA1-4_BOOK.pdf

I have that Navy FY request estimate document as well. However when it was kicked up stairs to the DoD budget and adjustments made such as long lead line procurement the acquisition lot rose to $2.1B for the procurement of 24 airframes as opposed to $1,8B in the initial Naval request.

[EUFighter]

Here is an option that would "the cat amongst the pigeons"!
Russian has just displayed their export version of the Su-57; the Su-57E (E for Eire??)

https://www.ruaviation.com/news/2020/8/20/15337/?h

[EUFighter]

There are 10 C's and 4 D's stored new build aircraft built by the FMV to keep the Gripen line open during the transition to the E model.

https://sites.tufts.edu/reinventingp...aab-relations/

They are empty airframes with nothing installed and are worth only a very small fraction of the cost of a completed Gripen, most likely less than a $1m per unit.

[EUFighter]

Generally accurate but the F/A-18E/F's latest production lot Weapon System Cost for FY21 is now $87.5m. Of course if additional orders by a 3rd party air force are undertaken and bundled into a USN production lost that can reduce the WSC.

The latest DoD FY21 Budget Request you may find interesting

https://comptroller.defense.gov/Port...rview_Book.pdf

Value for F/A-18 taken from Navy Budget request APN_BA1-4 for 2021 (page 49 of 276)
https://www.secnav.navy.mil/fmc/fmb/...BA1-4_BOOK.pdf

[Anzac]

Here's my idea. Just buy 16 Gripens.

There are 10 C's and 4 D's stored new build aircraft built by the FMV to keep the Gripen line open during the transition to the E model.

https://sites.tufts.edu/reinventingpeace/2019/06/24/14-empty-airframes-and-what-they-say-about-swedish-state-saab-relations/

[Anzac]

To keep everyone up to date here are the latest prices from your local US of A Arms Dealer; all prices ex-works and excl VAT.
This months special offer Ex-Turkish AF F-35As, low mileage, call for special deal.

Type	Fly Away Cost	Weapon System Cost
F-15EX	$87.7m	$105.8m
F/A-18	$68.6	$75.6
F-35A	$86.9m	$110.3m
F-35B	$110.5m	$135.9m
F-35C	$100.9m	$117.3

Generally accurate but the F/A-18E/F's latest production lot Weapon System Cost for FY21 is now $87.5m. Of course if additional orders by a 3rd party air force are undertaken and bundled into a USN production lost that can reduce the WSC.

The latest DoD FY21 Budget Request you may find interesting

https://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/Documents/defbudget/fy2021/fy2021_Budget_Request_Overview_Book.pdf

[EUFighter]

Poll is showing that the Swiss will back the plan for new fighters in their next referendum on the subject planned for September.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN25G1XS

[pilatus]

For anyone with premium access to Key Magazines website, AFM have an online article about a future Gripen in Irish service

* https://www.key.aero/article/emerald-green-griffin-0

Is someone bribing them

The article is also found on page 17 of the printed Airforces monthly this month.

[DeV]

Here's my idea. Just buy 16 Gripens. At the same time have Saab bring a Demo gripen. All the spotters will think it is the same aircraft doing touch& go all over the country.
It worked for the PC12M. You all thought it was the demo model....
Six months later, when the minister for Agriculture resigns again, put the IAC roundel on.
Nobody will notice.

Drop tanks Filled with face masks

[EUFighter]

To keep everyone up to date here are the latest prices from your local US of A Arms Dealer; all prices ex-works and excl VAT.
This months special offer Ex-Turkish AF F-35As, low mileage, call for special deal.

Type	Fly Away Cost	Weapon System Cost
F-15EX	$87.7m	$105.8m
F/A-18	$68.6	$75.6
F-35A	$86.9m	$110.3m
F-35B	$110.5m	$135.9m
F-35C	$100.9m	$117.3

[EUFighter]

Here's my idea. Just buy 16 Gripens. At the same time have Saab bring a Demo gripen. All the spotters will think it is the same aircraft doing touch& go all over the country.
It worked for the PC12M. You all thought it was the demo model....
Six months later, when the minister for Agriculture resigns again, put the IAC roundel on.
Nobody will notice.

We can put the same number on all of them, has also worked with the PC12s

[na grohmiti]

Here's my idea. Just buy 16 Gripens. At the same time have Saab bring a Demo gripen. All the spotters will think it is the same aircraft doing touch& go all over the country.
It worked for the PC12M. You all thought it was the demo model....
Six months later, when the minister for Agriculture resigns again, put the IAC roundel on.
Nobody will notice.

[EUFighter]

I heard we were going with The Green Hornet .

You mean one like this?

[Sparky42]

Finnish HX project for new fighters continues despite Covid-19.
This is possible as they will increased their overall defence budget from $3.8 billion in 2020 to $5.8 billion in 2021. So going from 1.4% GDP to 2.0% GDP.

https://www.defensenews.com/global/e...ic-budget-axe/

Could you just imagine the heads exploding if we did a jump of that size in one go?