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Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Post
the C295s will allegedly be capable of rapid changeover to plain cargo/para/casevac. Allegedly. Not in the real world,though.
will it be able to carry the full spectrum of what we transport on an annual basis, no.
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Originally posted by Charlie252 View Post
15 Tonnes is perfect, 120 troops and a lot of baggage, ideal company size transport.
That Factsheet is gold dust should be sent to the Cabinet and the Sec Gen DOD along with a Picture of a Mowag driving out of a C-130..
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Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View Postthe "improved transport capability" is simply a longer fuselage and a few more airline seats and a few more feet on the tie down rails. Somebody in DoD is determined the AC transport ability remains at token levels, hence a PC-12 as a box carrier.
but in fairness that is what we are looking for in a transport, something that can carry troops/cargo
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Originally posted by Charlie252 View Post
Can you give some detail??"Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
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I have been looking at the C-295 Persuader as an MPA and as far as I can see, it is very much a bird for what we are doing with it. Control of the EEZ. What it is not, is suitable for ASW. It appears to be missing any kind of MAD capability as well as the ability to deploy sonoboys.
So if we got serious about not having Russian subs interfering with the Intarwebs around here, we'd need something more serious. SAAB Swordfish Q400 springs to mind.
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MOD: MPA Thread Merged with this one. There is already one thread to discuss the replacement of the current Casa 235 and it's replacement the C-295. That is sufficient.
Also seeing as the C-295 will not be solely used as an MPA the subject is moot. Attempts to open an further new threads on this subject will incur sanctions.
Carry on."Let us be clear about three facts. First, all battles and all wars are won in the end by the infantryman. Secondly, the infantryman always bears the brunt. His casualties are heavier, he suffers greater extremes of discomfort and fatigue than the other arms. Thirdly, the art of the infantryman is less stereotyped and far harder to acquire in modern war than that of any other arm." ------- Field Marshall Wavell, April 1945.
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Originally posted by Graylion View Post
It is damnably hard to get any kind of info on this. Glad to hear it though. Do we have the civvie wings or the ones with hard[points?
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Originally posted by Graylion View PostI have been looking at the C-295 Persuader as an MPA and as far as I can see, it is very much a bird for what we are doing with it. Control of the EEZ. What it is not, is suitable for ASW. It appears to be missing any kind of MAD capability as well as the ability to deploy sonoboys.
So if we got serious about not having Russian subs interfering with the Intarwebs around here, we'd need something more serious. SAAB Swordfish Q400 springs to mind.
MAD and Sonobuoy are both options on C295, as indeed is the capability to deploy torpedoes against any contacts encountered. The aircraft, while not in the realm of the Poseidon, is scalable in terms of capability.
An interesting point to note - all operators of the P-8 (with the exception of India) have opted not to install a MAD boom.
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Originally posted by Jetjock View Post
The Swordfish concept has been quietly shelved and is no longer marketed by Saab.
Originally posted by Jetjock View Post
MAD and Sonobuoy are both options on C295, as indeed is the capability to deploy torpedoes against any contacts encountered. The aircraft, while not in the realm of the Poseidon, is scalable in terms of capability.
An interesting point to note - all operators of the P-8 (with the exception of India) have opted not to install a MAD boom.
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