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    • Nothing new there. I saw one of those fly-on-the -wall documentaries on the cops in the UK dealing with emigration offences and they liaise with the Polish Air Force to shift a Casa load every week. Every week, just of Poles. How's that for maintaining currency?

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      • Good article in the RACO "Signal" magazine (Winter 2020 issue) here on this subject:
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        • When you see the news of what happened to the Italian ambassador and his his two companions in Goma, it shows the seriousness of the situation in that area. Thankfully the two officers were able to be repatriated safely however this does highlight that we place people in danger without the will and/or ability to extract them in emergencies. One can only hope that this latest development will be studied at the highest level and long range transport aircraft will be acquired before the next emergency arises. Also one would hope that instructions will be put in place that Irish personnel abroad must be repatriated at soon as is necessary.

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          • The thing that is most unsettling is the "we know what's best" attitude on display by some in the DoD.
            The circles they went to get a civvy contractor (only 2 months later, when the DF got seats on a scheduled flight for those being repatriated, to abandon same) instead of starting the process to clear the Lear to do the trip.
            Why couldn't they get the two observers on the scheduled flight?
            For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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            • Plenty becoming available across the sea
              https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-grounded.html

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              • Originally posted by apc View Post
                Plenty becoming available across the sea
                https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-grounded.html
                But we have nowhere to park them.....
                I'm wondering what costly upgrades were required to keep them in service until 2035. The negativity around the A400 is questionable. Interesting how the official document mentions refers to them as C130J and A400 instead of the official RAF titles of C4 & C5 for Herk J and Atlas C1 for the A400.
                I recon the "Military source" quoted was someone on ARRSE.
                For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                • It is the Mail. Even Wiki banned using it as a reference.
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                  • Originally posted by Flamingo View Post
                    It is the Mail. Even Wiki banned using it as a reference.
                    Reading between the lines I think the Daily Fail is insinuating Airbus = EU = Spawn of the Devil.
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                    • Any chance the RAF would give us the C130J they are getting rid of on Tuesday? All have at least another 15 years left in them.
                      For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.

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                      • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
                        Any chance the RAF would give us the C130J they are getting rid of on Tuesday? All have at least another 15 years left in them.
                        be nice, but DOD would never go for it unless we say we didnt want or need them then the DOD well defiantly get two, but it would be a great peace of kit to get
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                        • Originally posted by madmark View Post
                          be nice, but DOD would never go for it unless we say we didnt want or need them then the DOD well defiantly get two, but it would be a great peace of kit to get
                          Time to try reverse psychology

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                          • Originally posted by na grohmiti View Post
                            Any chance the RAF would give us the C130J they are getting rid of on Tuesday? All have at least another 15 years left in them.
                            If it happens go for it. Don't waste time dithering because others will snap them up.

                            I am sure that they would be happy to sell them to the Irish Government along the lines of the recent Bangladesh deal which iirc the deal for five was circa Eur250m including a comprehensive regeneration and avionics upgrade, training, spares and support through Marshalls. A bargain considering the RNZAF is paying Eur920m for their five J-30's. You will easily get over 25 years great service out of them, possibly more as they do the job required day in day out for up to 60 years. Through the diplomatic lens it will get lots of goodwill in the "goodwill bank" for Ireland in the UK.

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                            • Just as long as the actual overhauls and subsequent service contract are tightly written in our favour and monitored with a critical eye. We've been bitten before on all-inclusive contracts that cost a fortune for basic, widely available parts. Military customers are seen as suckers to be milked by the big firms.

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