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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostSurely carrying out all pilot training, line maintenance and administration is justification enough? If the airfield you are sending them to isn't 24 hour, why are you sending them there?
It’s had enough to run the AC from 1 location with a detachment to Athlone
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Originally posted by DeV View PostSo all the fixed wing ops in Shannon, all the training and RW in Baldonnel???
It’s had enough to run the AC from 1 location with a detachment to Athlone
The staffing issues should not impact on planning and operations. The issues just mean someone outside the organisation messed up.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by X-RayOne View PostMove it all to Shannon.......sell off Baldonnel. Ensure the Don goes for full market value with proceeds ring fenced for new airbase, other defence infrastructure and equipment projects and re-location costs for current personnel.
Legacy dumps and contaminated soil haven't stopped a single development from going ahead ever. Look at IFSC and the soon to be new town at Poolbeg. Even Haulbowline has been remediated for the park.
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Originally posted by pilatus View PostAswell as a squadron of smashed up Hurricanes!
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Originally posted by EUFighter View PostWhat must not be overlooked is the position of the Don to some other key defence assets, it is close to the Glen so flight times to the major training area are short. And it close to the Curragh and the ARW which should not be overlooked. Now the ARW and helicopters could be moved to Gormo but then it would have to be part of a more major reorganisation.
Definitely easily done if there is a will and effort made. Plus moving rest of Corps to Shannon allows for expansion of the Corps as a whole.An army is power. Its entire purpose is to coerce others. This power can not be used carelessly or recklessly. This power can do great harm. We have seen more suffering than any man should ever see, and if there is going to be an end to it, it must be an end that justifies the cost. Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain
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The thing with moving everything to Shannon, is it must be done on a phased basis. Moving the Air Corps out of Gormo demonstrated that.
Telling people "ok, you work in the mid west now. You can either sell your home and uproot your family from their friends and move to the other side of the country, or take your chance renting locally and making the weekly commute while you run 2 homes on one wage." will just force experienced people out.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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You could move the helicopters to the Curragh; build a hangar and a hardstand and a small fuel tank installation. You could operate the Garda helis from Dublin Airport or Weston or Knocksedan or the GHQ in the Phoenix Park. The rest can be moved easily enough. No shortage of people in Baldonnel who'd quit Dublin/Kildare/Wicklow in a heartbeat to move West. No shortage of engineering talent in Shannon who'd happily work on the Air Corps fleet.
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Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View PostYou could move the helicopters to the Curragh; build a hangar and a hardstand and a small fuel tank installation. You could operate the Garda helis from Dublin Airport or Weston or Knocksedan or the GHQ in the Phoenix Park. The rest can be moved easily enough. No shortage of people in Baldonnel who'd quit Dublin/Kildare/Wicklow in a heartbeat to move West. No shortage of engineering talent in Shannon who'd happily work on the Air Corps fleet.
I could say the DF would be reluctant to leave the Don after rebuilding all the Hangars, but they have done it elsewhere. Spend money renovating buildings only to walk away and leave the new building idle.
An ideal opportunity to share training resources with the folk in Lufthansa, if they are still training apprentices. Used to be a great number with SAL.For now, everything hangs on implementation of the CoDF report.
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Originally posted by na grohmiti View PostI wasn't going to say it.
I could say the DF would be reluctant to leave the Don after rebuilding all the Hangars, but they have done it elsewhere. Spend money renovating buildings only to walk away and leave the new building idle.
An ideal opportunity to share training resources with the folk in Lufthansa, if they are still training apprentices. Used to be a great number with SAL.
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Airmotive overhauled CFM 56s and P&W across the road overhauled jet engine core casings;both gone. Both made money but someone decided that moving the facility overseas made more sense. Ireland punches above it's weight in aviation because it always generates first-class aircrew and technicians of all types. We have always been first class overhaulers of aircraft and components. It's just that political or accountancy decisions tend to rob us of work.
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Flight Global 17/11/20: Embraer, Hungary sign contract for two KC-390 airlifters
Currently operate: A319 x2, Dassault Falcon 7X x2 in transport role.
Also access to C-17 Globemaster III’s x3, stationed at Pápa Air Base via Strategic Airlift Capability.
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Originally posted by The Usual Suspect View Post
Flight Global 17/11/20: Embraer, Hungary sign contract for two KC-390 airlifters
Currently operate: A319 x2, Dassault Falcon 7X x2 in transport role.
Also access to C-17 Globemaster III’s x3, stationed at Pápa Air Base via Strategic Airlift Capability.
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Originally posted by GoneToTheCanner View PostAirmotive overhauled CFM 56s and P&W across the road overhauled jet engine core casings;both gone. Both made money but someone decided that moving the facility overseas made more sense. Ireland punches above it's weight in aviation because it always generates first-class aircrew and technicians of all types. We have always been first class overhaulers of aircraft and components. It's just that political or accountancy decisions tend to rob us of work.
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