Military transport aircraft

[Spark23]

Because we are getting the MPA version, the costing overall (€211m) is quite large. The basic transport model should be significantly cheaper and affordable and a 3rd option (if an option is in the contract). Its a no brainer as you said as a stepping stone to something bigger.

Transport version in flyaway costs could be around €30 mil

[DeV]

Transport version in flyaway costs could be around €30 mil

And would mean multi-engine and type training could be conducted on it instead of the MPAs

[A/TEL]

And would mean multi-engine and type training could be conducted on it instead of the MPAs

That's affordable in fairness. Considering if you get 15-20 years service from it.

[GoneToTheCanner]

if they adjusted the package to include a bare bones C-295 cargo aircraft, from the off, that would be a smart move.

[na grohmiti]

And would mean multi-engine and type training could be conducted on it instead of the MPAs

Would also keep the non MPA hours down on the MPA aircraft, and as such increase their availability for their actual role somewhat. The current aircraft get used for a lot of passenger and freight jobs that they were never intended for.

[Graylion]

I just had a look at A330MRTT vs A321XLR. 150M$ cs 129M$. I think if we go down that road, 330MRTT would be the way to go, given this low price difference.

[EUFighter]

I just had a look at A330MRTT vs A321XLR. 150M$ cs 129M$. I think if we go down that road, 330MRTT would be the way to go, given this low price difference.

The basic A330 has a list price of $250m before the conversion to an A330 MRTT, so there is no way one can be had for $150m. In 2015 South Korea ordered 4 A330 MRTTs at a cost of $1,300m, that is $325m per aircraft!!!!
There are no plans for an A321XLR (MRTT) nor is there any conversion available to convert a old A330 into a MRTT version.

[Graylion]

The basic A330 has a list price of $250m before the conversion to an A330 MRTT, so there is no way one can be had for $150m. In 2015 South Korea ordered 4 A330 MRTTs at a cost of $1,300m, that is $325m per aircraft!!!!
There are no plans for an A321XLR (MRTT) nor is there any conversion available to convert a old A330 into a MRTT version.

Interesting. Google mentioned the lower price, but I didn't dig. And I am aware that there is no A321MRTT, that's why I didn't mention it.

[DeV]

Apparently a USAF C17 has paid a visit to the Don

[Sparky42]

Apparently a USAF C17 has paid a visit to the Don

Are we due a visit of someone high up?

[DeV]

Are we due a visit of someone high up?

Technical stop

[na grohmiti]

Some reports saying Pilot originally from Longford, and took a roundabout way home, taking in his old stomping ground.

[Anzac]

nor is there any conversion available to convert a old A330 into a MRTT version.

Yes there is. The RAAF aircraft are ex Qantas and were converted in Brisbane by Qantas Defence Services.

[na grohmiti]

Some reports saying Pilot originally from Longford, and took a roundabout way home, taking in his old stomping ground.

ATC conversation confirming the above. Nice jolly for someone.

https://forums.liveatc.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16193.0;attach=10854

[EUFighter]

Yes there is. The RAAF aircraft are ex Qantas and were converted in Brisbane by Qantas Defence Services.

Not quiet, the first aircraft was direct from Airbus (EADS at the time) and QDS was partnered with EADS to finish the conversion of the other aircraft using the parts delivered by EADS. Without those parts QDS would not have been able to do a conversion. Currently Airbus does not offer a conversion package for old A330s, they prefer to sell new A330 MRTTs. Also there is an issue with feedstock as the MRTT is based upon the -200 variant and they are in demand for conversion to freighters. For it to be worthwhile for Airbus to offer such a conversion there would need to be sufficient customers to make it pay. I expect that the RAAF ended up paying more for their aircraft than what a new build would have cost. Naturally they would counter that because they were converted in Australia they have better local support!