New Helis-The final Poll

[Goldie fish]

Lets hope the evaluation team brought their Blindfolds and ear muffs so thay can all sing "lalalalala I am not listening" when Eurocopter try to convince them that their civvy bubblecopters are ideal for the job..

[NOVA]

nooo the EC145 is crap
it so small

[Goldie fish]

I hope they brought 8 average sized CEFO equipped soldiers with them to show just how useless they are.

[faughanballagh]

Why would they possibly do that, Goldie? That would require logic.

[Come-quickly]

You wouldnt get eight sets of CEMO in that never mind eight blokes in anything more than underwear

[Turkey]

Air Corps people are in Germany at present, looking at the EC-135 and the EC-145.
I do not know if they will be doing Italy and the USA too, or if that has already been done.

FAO roger mcgee

[SPOOKY]

Why deos it require room for a 9man fullt equipped infnatry section?

It has been stated elsewhere that militarily, ARW CT tranport and insertion are the priority requirments..........
in this it would appear that the helicopter in question has adequate room for and utility for an assault team, and the potential for 'fastrope' insertion equipment.

whast wrong wiht it?

check the usuable cockpit space internal dismensions for the helicopters on offer.
Just becasue the S70's external dimensions are large does not mean that its internal volumes are the largest on offer, or indeed that this excess is any way more efficent then a smaller, say more manuverable in urban space, helicopter.
(NB. USSOCOM use of MH- series "Little Birds")

[Goldie fish]

Why deos it require room for a 9man fullt equipped infnatry section?

The tender says 8 equipped troops. Dont ask why.

It has been stated elsewhere that militarily, ARW CT tranport and insertion are the priority requirments..........
in this it would appear that the helicopter in question has adequate room for and utility for an assault team, and the potential for 'fastrope' insertion equipment.

whast wrong wiht it?

Whast indeed ...Have you tried to get into a tight space in a hurry wearing CEFO recently?

check the usuable cockpit space internal dismensions for the helicopters on offer.
Just becasue the S70's external dimensions are large does not mean that its internal volumes are the largest on offer, or indeed that this excess is any way more efficent then a smaller, say more manuverable in urban space, helicopter.
(NB. USSOCOM use of MH- series "Little Birds")

Eurocopter EC145 Cabin area 4.72sq m Cabin Volume 6.04cu m
Sikorsky S70 Cabin Area 8.18sq m Cabin Volume 11.22cu m
Sikorsky S76 Cabin Area 4.18sq m Cabin Volume 5.78cu m
(Eurocopter figures include Baggage space)


As for little Birds....we(The tender) want twin engine..and its cold outdoors in this country...wouldnt like to try to free my frozen hand from the outside of a heli while on ex in the wicklow mountains this time of year...

Thankfully the Penny Pinching DoD already have the tender process near completion before they saw your ideas,and tried to hand us a few R22s as MLH..with external Bench seats.
Read the details,they are all over this section.

[Victor]

The tender says 8 equipped troops. Dont ask why.

Someone (here?) mentioned a move to an 8 man squad.

[FMolloy]

It has been stated elsewhere that militarily, ARW CT tranport and insertion are the priority requirments..........

The new utility helis will be used for the training of conventional DF personnel, as the A3's are now.

[apod]

Yes the infantry section in a pso bn/coy is 8 troops.

[Turkey]

Apparently, all the inspections of the offerd helicopters are now finished, 'should'ent be long now..............

[Goldie fish]

So who are the 5 who got it right with the AB139?

[SPOOKY]

Well now goldie, wouldn't want to brag or anything, but...........

NB. Also don't count yer chickens, wait for the legal reactions?

[Goldie fish]

http://www.irishmilitaryonline.com/board/archive/index.php/t-1397

Give that man a crystal ball