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  • Floats, skids, Pumas and other things.

    the indian A3's have floats attached to their skies i notice....A3 in the south east, thats grand so...it must still be in relatively good nick then. Tell me this, how many sea kings are there operating in Ireland? and any other S&R helo's?not including the recently retired.

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    Our Alouettes, when operating over water had floats also. As do all Aircraft operating over water. I think its a requirment for certification.
    http://www.irishairpics.com/images/images/1008876M.jpg
    Alouette IIIs do not have Skis. There is no Longer an A3 in the south East.

    Coastguard (now part of Dept of transport)Contract CHC Scotia to Operate 4 Sikorsky S61 Helis. They are based in Shannon,Sligo, Dublin and Tramore.
    http://www.irishairpics.com/images/images/1006823M.jpg

    Photos of course come from www.irishairpics.com


    Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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    • #3
      is there skies on this A3?im not sure......
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      • #4
        Our Alouettes, when operating over water had floats also. As do all Aircraft operating over water. I think its a requirment for certification.
        sorry one other question!! what did the Dauphins floats look like goldie? any pictures??.....or did they not need them being twin turbined?

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        • #5
          They had them fitted as standard. Now you are gone off topic.


          Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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          • #6
            Point...they are not equiped with floats......flotation gear...its the grey panels or in the case of the A111s...the grey bags fitted abaft the cockpit...whit are operated by hydro static pencil on contact with water...to enable the helo to float if it comes into contact with water...ie..The sea.

            However given the top heavy nature of helos..most helos will invert them selves on contact with water...rather than float...henc the reason why most escape training is done from the inverted position...to make the crew aware of the disorientation the crew will suffer if a helo hits water.....

            Seeing there are so many 'experten' here i thought this would have been picked up on......

            It was commonly ackowledged during service that the only role the second engine would play in the event of a single engine failure...would be to take the crew to the scene of the crash......
            Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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            • #7
              Thats only 'cause the Dauphine is a bit too heavy in the Irish Air Corps version Murf, I thought everyone was aware of the A111 floatation units they are mounted where the Dutch mounted their TOW[?] A/T missles.
              As for the inverted floating position one has wonderd why the floatation units are mounted so low down on the aircraft but if u look ,they are placed on a fairly serious bit of structure so it may not be possable to put them anywhere else...
              "We will hold out until our last bullet is spent. Could do with some whiskey"
              Radio transmission, siege of Jadotville DR Congo. September 1961.
              Illegitimi non carborundum

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              • #8
                look, floatation devices are a bad idea full-stop. we all know what happened in jaws ...

                other than the A111, is there any other military/naval helicopter in current use which uses floatation devices?
                Cannon to right of them,
                Cannon to left of them,
                Cannon in front of them
                Volley'd and thunder'd;
                Storm'd at with shot and shell,
                Boldly they rode and well,
                Into the jaws of Death,
                Into the mouth of Hell
                Rode the six hundred.

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                • #9
                  The Puma(242?) had a pretty serious set too.


                  Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                  • #10
                    The Sea lynx has them mounted on the undercarriage sponsons as do the S61s....over water operations require them.. something to do with safety....jaws my arse...muppet!!!
                    Covid 19 is not over ....it's still very real..Hand Hygiene, Social Distancing and Masks.. keep safe

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                    • #11
                      jaws my arse...muppet!!!
                      all three are products of the jim henson workshop?

                      Any pics of the Puma?
                      Cannon to right of them,
                      Cannon to left of them,
                      Cannon in front of them
                      Volley'd and thunder'd;
                      Storm'd at with shot and shell,
                      Boldly they rode and well,
                      Into the jaws of Death,
                      Into the mouth of Hell
                      Rode the six hundred.

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                      • #12
                        Yes. There are lots. Get off your ass and visit irishairpics.com


                        Catch-22 says they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing.

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                        • #13
                          i see, i rather naively thought that what was being referred to were the large devices attached to the skids like the Greenpeace helicopter on the front page of IAP.
                          Last edited by eelmonster; 12 January 2006, 00:41.
                          Cannon to right of them,
                          Cannon to left of them,
                          Cannon in front of them
                          Volley'd and thunder'd;
                          Storm'd at with shot and shell,
                          Boldly they rode and well,
                          Into the jaws of Death,
                          Into the mouth of Hell
                          Rode the six hundred.

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                          • #14
                            other than the A111, is there any other military/naval helicopter in current use which uses floatation devices?
                            em...at least one of the new EC135's????......

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by hptmurphy
                              Point...they are not equiped with floats......flotation gear...its the grey panels or in the case of the A111s...the grey bags fitted abaft the cockpit...whit are operated by hydro static pencil on contact with water...to enable the helo to float if it comes into contact with water...ie..The sea.

                              However given the top heavy nature of helos..most helos will invert them selves on contact with water...rather than float...henc the reason why most escape training is done from the inverted position...to make the crew aware of the disorientation the crew will suffer if a helo hits water.....

                              Seeing there are so many 'experten' here i thought this would have been picked up on......

                              It was commonly ackowledged during service that the only role the second engine would play in the event of a single engine failure...would be to take the crew to the scene of the crash......
                              The floats on an A111 are not activated by hydro static sensors. They are armed and avtivated by the pilot. When the aircraft overflies water the pilot arms the floats via a guarded toggle switch on the instrument panel. If a ditching scenario occurs the pilot only has to press a button on the cyclic control and this blows the floats. Pressing this button electrically fires 4 squibs which break the seals on 4 pressurized cylinders containing carbon dioxide. This gas the fills the floats

                              Daupin does have flotation gear. Two floats located at the front one either side. The tailboom is a sealed unit and is supposed to support the rear

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